robertmackayclan

I have just started to research my four German Families: Sowers, Wolf, Shipp & Snyder. Only Sowers & Snyder I assumed were German. Of course, others surnames will be added as I recover maiden names.

Palatinate as a province furnished by far largest contingent of the German emigration to PA. I have lots of information at the public library and L.D.S. library still to read through.

Wm. Penn went to this area of Germany between 1717-1773 and brought to PA over 68,872 immigrants. Then I have been told the Quaker communities started to "elbow" out the Germans to other parts of PA, MD and VA.

The public library and L.D.S. also have a sources materials for PA I have not fully examined. A number of other researchers work on German Records at my local L.D.S. library, so I can tap them for information.

My four families started out in Philadelphia and took three known paths out of the city--1. directly to Emmitsburg, MD--SHIPP, 2. The ones who removed into the counties north of the city removed western PA into OH & IN--SNYDER, 3. Third path removed down to Lancaster or York counties PA, then down into VA--SOWERS & WOLF.

SOWERS: Jacob born c1710 (or earlier) died 1781 in Winchester, VA. He was in Winchester by 1732. Lived in Lancaster Co. PA before VA. Came down with others (need to get the names) chart member of the German Reformed Church in Winchester, VA. This fact member of this church, most likely a Swiss Family who removed into Germany after the Thirty Years War. I am looking for him to have married in PA.

WOLF: Andreas born 1706 arrived in ship "Plaisance" on 27th Sep 1732 into Philadelphia, PA, list on the net. Age 26 years, Married to Regina Ziegler (information just from the net), children born in Lancaster, PA, member of Muddy Creek Lutheran Church, most likley a German Family. His son Valentine arrived in Rockingham Co. VA by 1782. This family would mix with the Koontz family and as it as turn out Maria Koontz Arrington who was my distant Shipp cousin we are also Wolf cousin.

SHIPP: John Frederick born 1719 died c1789 in Philadelphia, PA arrived in ship "Molly" in Oct 1741. This list is on line. His son, I belive, removed directly to Emmitsburg, MD most likely as soon as 1770. A Godfrey Shipp died in this location by 1782. I am beginning to think a Uncle of my Godfrey Shipp. My oldest known fully documented Godfrey Shipp born 1785 most likely in MD, married in Emmitsburg, Frederick Co. MD removed down to Shenandoah Co. VA by 1810. In Ralph D. Shipp of CO "The Shipp Family Genealogy", my and Maria K. Arrington's groups of Shipp included in his book as "Unassigned Branches" of the descendants of Wm. Shipp of early VA. They do not belong in his book at all. I believe she died without knowning her oldest known Shipp ancestor Wm. was a son of Godfrey Shipp Sr. who was the father of my John Shipp.

SNYDER: Sarah E. born either 1837 or 1840, died Morganfield, Union Co. KY, believe buried next to her husband with his second wife. I have five orginial documents giving me five different birth places for her. These locations could be the path her family took getting to Union Co. KY. Marriage record she was born in IN, census born in OH, last locations given on her children's death records: Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. OH, Germantown, PA & Ohio Co. KY.

This project will take a good long time. If the reader has surnames they want me to look for, that information will be only posted here. So others can "share" the information. The price of me spending my time and monies, you will have to submit a D.N.A. sample through Family Tree DNA (both male & female tests) and make the results known here so others can share that information. Genealogy is "SHARING" or so I have been told.

I have just started to research my four German Families: Sowers, Wolf, Shipp & Snyder. Only Sowers & Snyder I assumed were German. Of course, others surnames will be added as I recover maiden names.

Palatinate as a province furnished by far largest contingent of the German emigration to PA. I have lots of information at the public library and L.D.S. library still to read through.

Wm. Penn went to this area of Germany between 1717-1773 and brought to PA over 68,872 immigrants. Then I have been told the Quaker communities started to "elbow" out the Germans to other parts of PA, MD and VA.

The public library and L.D.S. also have a sources materials for PA I have not fully examined. A number of other researchers work on German Records at my local L.D.S. library, so I can tap them for information.

My four families started out in Philadelphia and took three known paths out of the city--1. directly to Emmitsburg, MD--SHIPP, 2. The ones who removed into the counties north of the city removed western PA into OH & IN--SNYDER, 3. Third path removed down to Lancaster or York counties PA, then down into VA--SOWERS & WOLF.

SOWERS: Jacob born c1710 (or earlier) died 1781 in Winchester, VA. He was in Winchester by 1732. Lived in Lancaster Co. PA before VA. Came down with others (need to get the names) chart member of the German Reformed Church in Winchester, VA. This fact member of this church, most likely a Swiss Family who removed into Germany after the Thirty Years War. I am looking for him to have married in PA.

WOLF: Andreas born 1706 arrived in ship "Plaisance" on 27th Sep 1732 into Philadelphia, PA, list on the net. Age 26 years, Married to Regina Ziegler (information just from the net), children born in Lancaster, PA, member of Muddy Creek Lutheran Church, most likley a German Family. His son Valentine arrived in Rockingham Co. VA by 1782. This family would mix with the Koontz family and as it as turn out Maria Koontz Arrington who was my distant Shipp cousin we are also Wolf cousin.

SHIPP: John Frederick born 1719 died c1789 in Philadelphia, PA arrived in ship "Molly" in Oct 1741. This list is on line. His son, I belive, removed directly to Emmitsburg, MD most likely as soon as 1770. A Godfrey Shipp died in this location by 1782. I am beginning to think a Uncle of my Godfrey Shipp. My oldest known fully documented Godfrey Shipp born 1785 most likely in MD, married in Emmitsburg, Frederick Co. MD removed down to Shenandoah Co. VA by 1810. In Ralph D. Shipp of CO "The Shipp Family Genealogy", my and Maria K. Arrington's groups of Shipp included in his book as "Unassigned Branches" of the descendants of Wm. Shipp of early VA. They do not belong in his book at all. I believe she died without knowning her oldest known Shipp ancestor Wm. was a son of Godfrey Shipp Sr. who was the father of my John Shipp.

SNYDER: Sarah E. born either 1837 or 1840, died Morganfield, Union Co. KY, believe buried next to her husband with his second wife. I have five orginial documents giving me five different birth places for her. These locations could be the path her family took getting to Union Co. KY. Marriage record she was born in IN, census born in OH, last locations given on her children's death records: Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. OH, Germantown, PA & Ohio Co. KY.

This project will take a good long time. If the reader has surnames they want me to look for, that information will be only posted here. So others can "share" the information. The price of me spending my time and monies, you will have to submit a D.N.A. sample through Family Tree DNA (both male & female tests) and make the results known here so others can share that information. Genealogy is "SHARING" or so I have been told.

"Pat" of Seay Family Tree reponsed to my posting on Ancestry.com. Reader can view her response on the public page.

"There is a possibility that this is a different Sowers line"

Yes, she might have the wrong Sowers Family connected with my Etta Double Sowers. I have the documentation for my double line of Sowers Family from Jacob Sowers Sr.

"The Sowers married into my family. Most probably, any other information of the Sowers is extracted from and not researched in depth as it was only 1 Sowers that married into my family".

Her family in question was Elam Pugh. I believe we are talking about another family that lived in Shenandoah Co. VA. Our group of Sowers lived in Frederick/Warren & Clarke counties of VA. Only one small group removed down to Augusta Co. VA.

In short, she doesn't have documented material on line surrounding the maiden name of Jacob's wife as Mary SELLERS. And the maiden name of Daniel Sowers Sr. as Catherine M. WHARTON.

Other errors the marriage of Wm. Jenkins with Elizabeth McKoy not McKee. Researchers will be researching the wrong family, which I have done in the past.

John W. Sowers' son Wm. Sowers (no middle name) married Elizabeth Kerfoot, her parents George & Peggy Kerfoot. As far as I know her maiden has not been documented.

Posted on Ancestry.com Trees the pedigree chart of Etta Double Sowers (complete with Sowers Coat of Arms).

Founder of my group of SOWERS this researcher has the following information : Jacob Sowers (Sauer) born in Germany married to Mary SELLERS. Sources?. It could be Jacob was born in Germany, but I am beginning to think his father was the emigrate. Remember Germans coming into PA after 1717 had to take an oath in the court house. I have not found any Jacob Sowers on those listed. I still have PA films/fiche to read. This researcher has his wife's maiden name as SELLERS. That fact I would like to have the source? In the original records I have seen connected with my Sowers family, the name spelled as Sower or Sowers. I have seen surnames spelled as Sowers, Sauer & Saur on some of the same same tax list. I think these are different families, modern researcher have mixed them together. DNA study would help to sort them out.

I decend twice from his son Daniel Sowers Sr., married to Catherine. Michael has a picture of her grave marker. This researcher has her name as Catherine M. WHARTON. Finding the will of Anthony Crum who named as his daughter Katy Sowers, I am 80 percent sure her maiden name was Crum. As far as I know she had no middle name. An another researcher has the ancestry of this Anthony back to the emigrate, correct or not I really do not known.

Wm. Sowers' wife was Catherine Jenkins, still working on her families, her mother was a member of McKay family, not McKee, hugh different.

John W. Sowers' son Wm. (no middle names) married Elizabeth Kerfoot and her parents George & Peggy Kerfoot. This researcher has her name as Margaret McCarty. Years ago I heard that a researcher had an OPINION she was a member of McCarty family, but no documentation given for her maiden name.

I serious doubt this researcher has uncovered new and different information about our Sowers Family from primary sources, but one never knows.

Any Snyder Researcher (various spelling) who has not send in a sample to them, is really wasting his time and money.

Haplogroup include the letter "R", "I", "E", "T" & "G", so various families in US same name not related.

I am interested in the groups who lived in PA and moved into OH.

I think I am interested in a man named Jacob Schneider (later Snyder) who removed with his brother Hans (Johann Schneider) who was born in Geneva Switzerland Dec 1687. The above Jacob lived to the age of 97 in Germantown, PA.

The first census, 1810 & 1820 shows about five heads of household for the above location, I am interested in a Daniel living in 1820 in Germantown, PA, but in 1830 living in Hamilton Co. OH in Symmes not listed in 1840 in that location. If the information found in various family documents are correct need to find him moving down into Ohio Co. KY. I believe my Sarah E. Snyder was an orphan or living for the 1850 in household of Rev. Wm. Allen of Henderson Co. KY. This county next to Union Co. KY where Sarah E. married G.G. Hopgood.

Time will tell, but my finding out my Shipp were in fact German has help in my Snyder research which was really at a "Brick Wall".

Rev. Wm. G. Allen's wife Sarah Ann was the daughter of Gabriel Green who had a number of children. The house of Gabe Green that my ancestors George G. Hopgood & Sarah E. Snyder were married was the brother of said Sarah Ann (Green) Allen.

Still I have failed to figure out if the Snyder & Green families were related.

I have just started to research my four German Families: Sowers, Wolf, Shipp & Snyder. Only Sowers & Snyder I assumed were German. Of course, others surnames will be added as I recover maiden names.

Palatinate as a province furnished by far largest contingent of the German emigration to PA. I have lots of information at the public library and L.D.S. library still to read through.

Wm. Penn went to this area of Germany between 1717-1773 and brought to PA over 68,872 immigrants. Then I have been told the Quaker communities started to "elbow" out the Germans to other parts of PA, MD and VA.

The public library and L.D.S. also have a sources materials for PA I have not fully examined. A number of other researchers work on German Records at my local L.D.S. library, so I can tap them for information.

My four families started out in Philadelphia and took three known paths out of the city--1. directly to Emmitsburg, MD--SHIPP, 2. The ones who removed into the counties north of the city removed western PA into OH & IN--SNYDER, 3. Third path removed down to Lancaster or York counties PA, then down into VA--SOWERS & WOLF.

SOWERS: Jacob born c1710 (or earlier) died 1781 in Winchester, VA. He was in Winchester by 1732. Lived in Lancaster Co. PA before VA. Came down with others (need to get the names) chart member of the German Reformed Church in Winchester, VA. This fact member of this church, most likely a Swiss Family who removed into Germany after the Thirty Years War. I am looking for him to have married in PA.

WOLF: Andreas born 1706 arrived in ship "Plaisance" on 27th Sep 1732 into Philadelphia, PA, list on the net. Age 26 years, Married to Regina Ziegler (information just from the net), children born in Lancaster, PA, member of Muddy Creek Lutheran Church, most likley a German Family. His son Valentine arrived in Rockingham Co. VA by 1782. This family would mix with the Koontz family and as it as turn out Maria Koontz Arrington who was my distant Shipp cousin we are also Wolf cousin.

SHIPP: John Frederick born 1719 died c1789 in Philadelphia, PA arrived in ship "Molly" in Oct 1741. This list is on line. His son, I belive, removed directly to Emmitsburg, MD most likely as soon as 1770. A Godfrey Shipp died in this location by 1782. I am beginning to think a Uncle of my Godfrey Shipp. My oldest known fully documented Godfrey Shipp born 1785 most likely in MD, married in Emmitsburg, Frederick Co. MD removed down to Shenandoah Co. VA by 1810. In Ralph D. Shipp of CO "The Shipp Family Genealogy", my and Maria K. Arrington's groups of Shipp included in his book as "Unassigned Branches" of the descendants of Wm. Shipp of early VA. They do not belong in his book at all. I believe she died without knowning her oldest known Shipp ancestor Wm. was a son of Godfrey Shipp Sr. who was the father of my John Shipp.

SNYDER: Sarah E. born either 1837 or 1840, died Morganfield, Union Co. KY, believe buried next to her husband with his second wife. I have five orginial documents giving me five different birth places for her. These locations could be the path her family took getting to Union Co. KY. Marriage record she was born in IN, census born in OH, last locations given on her children's death records: Cincinnati, Hamilton Co. OH, Germantown, PA & Ohio Co. KY.

This project will take a good long time. If the reader has surnames they want me to look for, that information will be only posted here. So others can "share" the information. The price of me spending my time and monies, you will have to submit a D.N.A. sample through Family Tree DNA (both male & female tests) and make the results known here so others can share that information. Genealogy is "SHARING" or so I have been told.