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Posted: 2:49 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Dee Ann Buck
I have the DNA evidence that the wife of Jacob McKay Jr. being Elizabeth Wright, daughter of Joseph Wright & Rebecca Scholey I share DNA samples with all the families that I know were in her family tree: Wright, Empson, Crispin, Stockton, Sscholey, Hancock, Taylor & Horseman.
Two researchers Scott Hopkins & AAAW descend from the same Wright family as Elizabeth Wright who married Jacob McKay Jr. So three people have DNA samples on file with Ancestry who descend from Robert Wright (1604-1651) & wife Alice Lawtie.
However researcher AAAW and I also share Kittrell ancestry.
And researcher Scott Hopkins and I share the same Lippincott and Vernon ancestry.
So in the end I am still searching for one of the other children of Joseph Wright & Rebecca Scholey who have turned in a sample.
Posted: 3:05 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Dee Ann Buck
Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:
2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.
3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).
4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.
5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.
6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.
7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.
As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.
James Verinon & his wife Hester Brown had three sons: Robert, Randall & Thomas
Researcher Scott Allen Hopkins and I decend from a different brother, he from Robert and I from Thomas Vernon.
Since we also share Lippincott and Wright ancestors, I can not really confirm by link from Thomas to Elizabeth Vernon who married Andrew Jobe. Their daughter Patience Jobe married Robert Mackay Jr.
He placed on Ancestry Tree the Vernon blood line back nine more generations into 1400's and one of the female lines DePype back 1260's.
Thirteen other researchers have also posted the same information, however I suspect they just copied the same information.
I recall a history TV program showing a castle in connection with Manners Family and there was with that family the Vernons.
Some researchers have recorded a connection with Vernons with George Washington, but I do not know if true or not.
Posted: 3:12 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Dee Ann Buck
There are plenty of sources primary & secondary dealing with the families of Bradshaw, Penn, Crispin, Schooley & Wright. I have many Autosomal test filed with Ancestry DNA data bank to support my line from said Lawrence Bradshaw. Might be additional kits filed with Family Tree DNA. My line from:
1. Lawrence Bradshaw of Hope, Ecces, Lancashire England son
2. Ralph Bradshaw (1611-1667) there are six researchers kits supporting this line m. Rachel Penn (daughter of Giles Penn & Joan Gilbert there are six kits supporting this line.
3. Rebecca Bradshaw died c1660 Kinsale, England m. Wm. Crispin there are eight kits filed by researchers on Crispin line
4. Silas Crispin (c1655-1771) born in London, England, died 1711 in Philadelphia, PA m. Mary Stockton. I have two kits supporting Mary Stockton line from Richard Stockton.You will find a great deal of information about this couple in books and on line. And I have two lines from Richard Stockton.
5. Abigail Crispin (1701- ) m. John Wright, there are 9 pages of Wright entries to read.
6. Joseph Wright (c1729-c1789) m. Rebecca Schooley her line is supported by 10 kits filed by other Schooley researchers and 4 additional kits dealing with her Horseman line. The names with birth dates of their children recorded in Quaker records. The time the above families spend in PA/NJ all is recorded in Quaker records and civil records.
7. Elizabeth Wright (1767-1785) her birth date recorded among Quaker Records in Monmouth Co. NJ, reference to her death in Quaker records "Jacob McKay buried his wife Elizabeth". About a week after the birth of Jacob McKay III. The rest of her family I believe moved into OH or IN. Still seeking them.
8. Jacob McKay (1785-1852) he is the oldest known marked grave of my MacKay line, found on "Fine a Grave" m. Elizsbeth Antrim and I have sdditional Antrim, Borden, Garwood & Haines DNA Autosomal evidence. We have a Y marker project on line for the male McKay. There at least 10 Autosomal Kits filed with Ancestry DNA by researchers who's line comes from Robert Mackay Sr. and additional ones filed with Family Tree DNA.
9. Thomas Buck McKay (1831-1911) m-1 Ann Elizabeth Lehew, their graves found on "Fine a Grave". I have supporting Autosomal evidence dealing with Lehew, Branson & Dubois families.
10. Charles E. McKay (1857-1932) m. Etta Double Sowers I have Autosomal evidence supporting her blood line: Sowers, Crum, Kerfoot, Hunt, Johnston, Reynolds, Poindexter, Cary?, Johnston, Reynolds, Barber, Nash, Glascock, Etherdge & Robinson.
11. Daisy Love McKay (1899-1986) m. Walter Eugene Shipp
12. Ralph Earl Shipp m. Patsy Dee Hopgood
13. Dee Ann Shipp m. Irvin P. Buck Jr., all these 100's of test kits coming down to me and showing share DNA with another person, each of us supporting the blood line of the other.
One draw back with Ancestry DNA verse Family Tree DNA, Ancestry does not have a Chromosome Brower. So I can't tell if a cousin is a double cousin or not.
All these programs tell you is that another researcher shares DNA with you. You have to figure out which one of your blood line you have in common with others. On Ancestry you can't see if said individual matches you once, twice, three, four etc....
Of couse, people are placing on their DNA profile the wrong line of decend, which can cause a problem if you not aware.
Researcher KarenM565 share DNA material in common with Zelley family. Both of us share Daniel Zelley & Martha Dexon as ancestor, she decend from son Daniel and I through Sarah Zelley who married Thomas Antrim. And I do not see another family we share in common.
She has the family going back another generation in England.
One piece on "History Myteries" was about "a large black cat" in the village of Nailsworth, Gloucester, England, this is the same home town where our Zelley lived before NJ.
Posted: 6:10 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Dee Ann Buck
The emigrate Wm. Matlack another R1b1b2, but the same site which has his marker, fail to have his wife Mary Hancock. So I can not report the Haplogroup for Elizabeth Antrim.
Mary Hancock her daughter
Sarah Matlack her daughter
Esther Haines her daughter
Sarah Garwood her daughter
Elizabeth Antrim
Elizabeth Antrim's only possible daughter that might have had daughters: Elizabeth Jane McKay who married John Gill Buck, they had three daughters that did marry and perhaps had daughter. We need, of course, females willing to be tested to find the Haplogroup.
Their are some real interesting site dealing with Wm. & Mary (Hancock) Matlack's lives in NJ, including pictures of their grave markers.
"Monidcivitano & cdrum66 both are descends of John Garwood, so are also descends of Wm. Matlack.
Researcher ChrisGann94 also descends from Wm. Matlack & wife Mary Hancock, but from another child John, we and the above 2 other researchers from daughter Sarah.
Posted: 7:49 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Dee Ann Buck
Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:
2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.
3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).
4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.
5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.
6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.
7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.
As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.
Found on ancestry four DNA samples: "A.S", "nikkie37",
"J.G" & "Charlajo2003 and myself descend of Thomas Budd & his wife Susanna Prigge, three of us through the line of Mary Budd who married Francis Budd. The other another line through son Wm. Budd.
Posted: 4:08 PM - Jan 25, 2014
Dee Ann Buck
Found on Ancestry DNA if you are descend of Thomas Budd & Susanna Senior their descendants have place DNA samples in Ancestry.
"MS" his line from Thomas Budd & Susana Senior their daughter Mary Budd married Francis Collins (also my line) but he descend from another son Francis Colline (1692-1728) married Ann Molton
Posted: 5:38 PM - Jan 25, 2014
Dee Ann Buck
"Monidcivitano & cdrum66 both are descends of John Garwood, so are also descends of Wm. Matlack.
Researcher ChrisGann94 also descends from Wm. Matlack & wife Mary Hancock, but from another child John, we and the above 2 other researchers from daughter Sarah.
Found Ancestry DNA Project researcher "Marlat 1026" descend of Wm. Matlock & Mary Hancock through son Timothy (1695-1752) and his son Timothy Matlock (1736-1829)
If you are a descend of said couple there are plenty of DNA samples you should match.
Posted: 5:40 PM - Jan 25, 2014
Dee Ann Buck
We have the profile of Robert Mackay Sr.'s D.N.A.
A real long shot would be if we would find test subjects who have in their female line the D.N.A. of Robert's wife Ann Brown. The only two daughters who had females:
Ann Brown's daughter: Hannah (McKay) HOLLINGSWORTH her daughter Ann Hollingsworth m. Elias BROCK their one daughter Elizabeth BROCK born c1760 I believe lived in the SC. It could be she died without having a daughter. Researcher Algura B. Hedgpeth supplied what little I known about this family. I have lost touch with her.
Ann Brown's daughter: Leah (McKay) married twice last marriage with Jeremiah Odell produced daughter Leah Odell who married ........Whitson, her daughter Margaret Whitson born c1780 VA married 1803 in Shenandoah Co. VA to Wm. Jordan.
My oldest female line Elizabeth BROWN born 1780 Orange Co. NC died in Henderson Co. TN. About the same generation of the above two blood lines. I see no way related to Ann's family of Brown. I have not found the Brown Project Page of Family Tree D.N.A. helpful.
It could be Ann Brown's line is in the bank and we just don't known about it.
Ancestry DNA Project researcher "craynetrudell" descend of Thomas D. Antrim born 1776 VA and died 1853 in IN married in Green Co. TN Rachel Fry.
Researcher needs to do some library work to link up with emigrate.
Posted: 5:44 PM - Jan 25, 2014
Dee Ann Buck
Researcher KarenM565 share DNA material in common with Zelley family. Both of us share Daniel Zelley & Martha Dexon as ancestor, she decend from son Daniel and I through Sarah Zelley who married Thomas Antrim. And I do not see another family we share in common.
She has the family going back another generation in England.
One piece on "History Myteries" was about "a large black cat" in the village of Nailsworth, Gloucester, England, this is the same home town where our Zelley lived before NJ.
According to Ancestry DNA Project I share DNA with researcher "EileenLennonGoldstein" she descend of Hannah Zelley born 1830 Burlington Co. NJ, died same location 26 Feb 1865 married to Edward Kates born 1824 died 1890.
She needs to do library work to get her line back to emigrate Daniel Zelley.
Posted: 5:49 PM - Jan 25, 2014
Dee Ann Buck
The emigrate Wm. Matlack another R1b1b2, but the same site which has his marker, fail to have his wife Mary Hancock. So I can not report the Haplogroup for Elizabeth Antrim.
Mary Hancock her daughter
Sarah Matlack her daughter
Esther Haines her daughter
Sarah Garwood her daughter
Elizabeth Antrim
Elizabeth Antrim's only possible daughter that might have had daughters: Elizabeth Jane McKay who married John Gill Buck, they had three daughters that did marry and perhaps had daughter. We need, of course, females willing to be tested to find the Haplogroup.
Their are some real interesting site dealing with Wm. & Mary (Hancock) Matlack's lives in NJ, including pictures of their grave markers.
According to Ancestry DNA Project researcher "C.C" is a descend of John Garwood (1740-1819) he through son Thomas Garwood (1778-1837 IL) through son Charles Garwood (1814-1848).
I descend from said John Garwood's daughter Sarah Garwood who married into Antrim Family.
He is also descend of Sarah DuBois (1662-1726) wife of Joost Jan Van Meter.