robertmackayclan

We have the profile of Robert Mackay Sr.'s D.N.A.

A real long shot would be if we would find test subjects who have in their female line the D.N.A. of Robert's wife Ann Brown. The only two daughters who had females:

Ann Brown's daughter: Hannah (McKay) HOLLINGSWORTH her daughter Ann Hollingsworth m. Elias BROCK their one daughter Elizabeth BROCK born c1760 I believe lived in the SC. It could be she died without having a daughter. Researcher Algura B. Hedgpeth supplied what little I known about this family. I have lost touch with her.

Ann Brown's daughter: Leah (McKay) married twice last marriage with Jeremiah Odell produced daughter Leah Odell who married ........Whitson, her daughter Margaret Whitson born c1780 VA married 1803 in Shenandoah Co. VA to Wm. Jordan.

My oldest female line Elizabeth BROWN born 1780 Orange Co. NC died in Henderson Co. TN. About the same generation of the above two blood lines. I see no way related to Ann's family of Brown. I have not found the Brown Project Page of Family Tree D.N.A. helpful.

It could be Ann Brown's line is in the bank and we just don't known about it.

Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:

2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.

3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).

4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.

5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.

6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.

7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.

As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.

The Dubois family has some very interesting web site.I have a hint of the marker for Margaret Deyo could be "H" and her husband Abraham DuBois that is R1b1b2.

I have an email out to Rodney Jewett Project Manager of New Paltz, NY. If people supply informtion to this web page, oldest known ancestor, the kit number is not enough to help in doing research.

I am been collecting a lot of Y marker for my various surname on my charts. The hard thing seems to find Mitochondrial Test Results in Family Tree D.N.A.

Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:

2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.

3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).

4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.

5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.

6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.

7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.

As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.

The emigrate Wm. Matlack another R1b1b2, but the same site which has his marker, fail to have his wife Mary Hancock. So I can not report the Haplogroup for Elizabeth Antrim.

Mary Hancock her daughter
Sarah Matlack her daughter
Esther Haines her daughter
Sarah Garwood her daughter
Elizabeth Antrim

Elizabeth Antrim's only possible daughter that might have had daughters: Elizabeth Jane McKay who married John Gill Buck, they had three daughters that did marry and perhaps had daughter. We need, of course, females willing to be tested to find the Haplogroup.

Their are some real interesting site dealing with Wm. & Mary (Hancock) Matlack's lives in NJ, including pictures of their grave markers.

Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:

2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.

3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).

4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.

5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.

6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.

7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.

As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.

I have not really figured out how to see all the surnames listed in their group of names. I have seen some of their Haplogroup listing for some of the names. Your Hollingsworth found among their listing.

Surnames associated with Elizabeth Wright: Wright, Scholey, Taylor & Horseman (Susannah Horseman's Haplogroup would be Elizabeth's oldest female ancestor) could yield the information I seek.

My end game, is to isolate the openning in my pedigree chart that could contain Native American Ancestry. I really dislike people claiming to have ancestry in their background without any evidence and to claim descend from "famous persons" just because the share the same surname. D.N.A. could put closure to both cases.

We have the profile of Robert Mackay Sr.'s D.N.A.

A real long shot would be if we would find test subjects who have in their female line the D.N.A. of Robert's wife Ann Brown. The only two daughters who had females:

Ann Brown's daughter: Hannah (McKay) HOLLINGSWORTH her daughter Ann Hollingsworth m. Elias BROCK their one daughter Elizabeth BROCK born c1760 I believe lived in the SC. It could be she died without having a daughter. Researcher Algura B. Hedgpeth supplied what little I known about this family. I have lost touch with her.

Ann Brown's daughter: Leah (McKay) married twice last marriage with Jeremiah Odell produced daughter Leah Odell who married ........Whitson, her daughter Margaret Whitson born c1780 VA married 1803 in Shenandoah Co. VA to Wm. Jordan.

My oldest female line Elizabeth BROWN born 1780 Orange Co. NC died in Henderson Co. TN. About the same generation of the above two blood lines. I see no way related to Ann's family of Brown. I have not found the Brown Project Page of Family Tree D.N.A. helpful.

It could be Ann Brown's line is in the bank and we just don't known about it.

Family Tree D.N.A. stated what I thought was the case they do not index all the various Miochondrial D.N.A. test results. In the end you have to be personal aware of another woman who has turned in her test.

They gave the address of two sites which might yield some information as soon as I learn how to use them

www.mitosearch.org this one I have looked at

www.ysearch.org this might a site Y markers

Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:

2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.

3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).

4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.

5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.

6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.

7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.

As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.

I have the DNA evidence that the wife of Jacob McKay Jr. being Elizabeth Wright, daughter of Joseph Wright & Rebecca Scholey I share DNA samples with all the families that I know were in her family tree: Wright, Empson, Crispin, Stockton, Sscholey, Hancock, Taylor & Horseman.

My DNA kit filed with Ancestry matches with a kit supplied by Virginia Hulsey. I do not see other surnames or families we might have shared in the past, except for Giles Penn (c1573-c1856) who was first cousin to Wm. Penn.

Her ancestor James Penn (b. 1756 NJ, d. 1834 in NJ) was 5th cousin to Elizabeth Wright who was the daughter of Joseph Wright & Rebecca Scholey. It is this Elizabeth Wright who married Jacob McKay Jr. who I descend.

I have the DNA evidence that the wife of Jacob McKay Jr. being Elizabeth Wright, daughter of Joseph Wright & Rebecca Scholey I share DNA samples with all the families that I know were in her family tree: Wright, Empson, Crispin, Stockton, Sscholey, Hancock, Taylor & Horseman.

There are plenty of sources primary & secondary dealing with the families of Bradshaw, Penn, Crispin, Schooley & Wright. I have many Autosomal test filed with Ancestry DNA data bank to support my line from said Lawrence Bradshaw. Might be additional kits filed with Family Tree DNA. My line from:

1. Lawrence Bradshaw of Hope, Ecces, Lancashire England son

2. Ralph Bradshaw (1611-1667) there are six researchers kits supporting this line m. Rachel Penn (daughter of Giles Penn & Joan Gilbert there are six kits supporting this line.

3. Rebecca Bradshaw died c1660 Kinsale, England m. Wm. Crispin there are eight kits filed by researchers on Crispin line

4. Silas Crispin (c1655-1771) born in London, England, died 1711 in Philadelphia, PA m. Mary Stockton. I have two kits supporting Mary Stockton line from Richard Stockton.You will find a great deal of information about this couple in books and on line. And I have two lines from Richard Stockton.

5. Abigail Crispin (1701- ) m. John Wright, there are 9 pages of Wright entries to read.

6. Joseph Wright (c1729-c1789) m. Rebecca Schooley her line is supported by 10 kits filed by other Schooley researchers and 4 additional kits dealing with her Horseman line. The names with birth dates of their children recorded in Quaker records. The time the above families spend in PA/NJ all is recorded in Quaker records and civil records.

7. Elizabeth Wright (1767-1785) her birth date recorded among Quaker Records in Monmouth Co. NJ, reference to her death in Quaker records "Jacob McKay buried his wife Elizabeth". About a week after the birth of Jacob McKay III. The rest of her family I believe moved into OH or IN. Still seeking them.

8. Jacob McKay (1785-1852) he is the oldest known marked grave of my MacKay line, found on "Fine a Grave" m. Elizsbeth Antrim and I have sdditional Antrim, Borden, Garwood & Haines DNA Autosomal evidence. We have a Y marker project on line for the male McKay. There at least 10 Autosomal Kits filed with Ancestry DNA by researchers who's line comes from Robert Mackay Sr. and additional ones filed with Family Tree DNA.

9. Thomas Buck McKay (1831-1911) m-1 Ann Elizabeth Lehew, their graves found on "Fine a Grave". I have supporting Autosomal evidence dealing with Lehew, Branson & Dubois families.

10. Charles E. McKay (1857-1932) m. Etta Double Sowers I have Autosomal evidence supporting her blood line: Sowers, Crum, Kerfoot, Hunt, Johnston, Reynolds, Poindexter, Cary?, Johnston, Reynolds, Barber, Nash, Glascock, Etherdge & Robinson.

11. Daisy Love McKay (1899-1986) m. Walter Eugene Shipp

12. Ralph Earl Shipp m. Patsy Dee Hopgood

13. Dee Ann Shipp m. Irvin P. Buck Jr., all these 100's of test kits coming down to me and showing share DNA with another person, each of us supporting the blood line of the other.

One draw back with Ancestry DNA verse Family Tree DNA, Ancestry does not have a Chromosome Brower. So I can't tell if a cousin is a double cousin or not.

All these programs tell you is that another researcher shares DNA with you. You have to figure out which one of your blood line you have in common with others. On Ancestry you can't see if said individual matches you once, twice, three, four etc....

Of couse, people are placing on their DNA profile the wrong line of decend, which can cause a problem if you not aware.

Looking for females who have the D.N.A. of:

2. Patience Jobe not enough people have turned in samples to have Project Manager, it could be females have returned into their system samples and just do not known how to work their system. Her female line back to Vernon in G.B.

3. Rachel Ridgeway not enough people have turned in samples to have a Project Manager, again females might have turn in a sample. Her female line back through Hannah Brown, her mother Elizabeth.........?(unknown to me).

4. Elizabeth Wright there is a site, but not for females, but she had no daughters.

5. Elizabeth Antrim, one one test sample has been turn in under the name Antrim. Her female line goes back to Mary Hancock born 1664 Bayles, Warwick, England.

6. Ann Elizabeth Lehew, not one test as been turn in for this surname. Her oldest known female line to Margaret Deyo born France c1660 died New Paltz, Ulster, NY.

7. Etta Double Sowers, not one test as been turn in for this suname. Her oldest known female line Matilda Johnston.

As I learn how to use their systems, perhaps I can find out more about these ladies. If you know of other sites let me known.

There are six DNA samples found on Ancestry DNA site. All but one I found has just Jobe ancestry, rest are intermarried with our Mackay/McKay family.

The one I was most interested in is "bigbobpete" line from emigrate Andrew Jobe & wife Elizabeth, their son Thomas who was the brother of our Andrew.

So I do not think has other in common distant ancestors.