robertmackayclan

I have the emigrate female ancestor of my Elizabeth Brown. She was Elizabeth Fox born 1647 Ireland died 1755 DE married first to Wm. Cook who died at sea. She was member of the Society of Friends who removed from parts of England and Wales to present day Northern Ireland. The British Government want to hold down the Catholics of the area. Said Quakers did not get all they wanted from the government so they left in mass to parts of PA.

I am posting all future information on my Ancestry Tree Time Line.

It turns out I am a direct descend of Valentine Hollingsworth.

As you might guess there are many different groups of Brown living just in VA. My main line of Brown, started by Thomas Brown came from Nottingham, England to PA then on to VA. It would appear there are three different Y marker from his male descends. His racial group R-M269.

My line--Thomas Brown & Ruth Large their son Wm. Brown and Hannah Moon to his son Wm. Brown & Margaret Martin.

It is Margaret Martin who is my mtDNA line.

Find a Grave has entries on all first tree generation and I have Quaker records for all the groups. Since I compiled in book form Frederick Co. VA Land Deeds and Wills I have all that information on hand. Hopewell Friends has information about this group of Brown as well has Hinshaw.

Then I started on this line I just knew my 2nd great grandmother Amanda E. Melton, none of her lines had been worked. This is before DNA. I was glad to have within my own control her DNA Footprint.

Hope in the future to get all of Elizabeth Brown's lines documented with paper and DNA matches. I have e-mail Fox Project to have my mtDNA sample send on to their site.


Information about Elizabeth Fox on line appears to be "confusion" among some of the researchers. I do not think she is from the same family as George Fox (Mr. Quaker).

Bob Derryberry's book is free on line, through L.D.S. library. I did not know he was going to print various theories I and others thought as to the beginnings of the family in US.

Others have taken his theories and spun them into fact.

In the olden days of Genealogy when you exchange paper information with another researcher, if you found out something was wrong, you knew where to send the corrections.

But now with information on line, there is no chance to correct or delete wrong information. People would rather hold on to bad information than to have nothing at all. They do not know how to use their delete key.

All of these opinions, theories, believes, thoughts were BEFORE DNA and only one piece of information I found and passed to Audria Massey was correct. The family was German and came into NC from NJ. Ancestry has a number of the early tax list on line for various counties of NJ.

The Y markers for four Derryberry men show the family came from a German family. The results are public on Family Tree DNA. And their and mine Autosomal samples filed Family Tree DNA. Which I might add I do not match.

However, you will find spread over the Ancestry and Personal Web Page all these wrong theories as fact.

The Derryberry were not French or English, but German. I love it when people state they have done their research and what they say is true. Then I know what they are saying was just mine and Audria old unproven opinions. I have been at this for 30 years!!

Since, DNA I have to deal with the fact my E.H. Derryberry does not share DNA material with four known Derryberry men.
Should I keep silence or tell others?. I have decided the honest thing to do is to go public on the issue. Now, others want to continue to research the Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN and beyond, go right head. But when you find out what I am saying is true and you have wasted your time, remember my caution about his parentage.

The Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN (other than my E.H. Derryberry) Y markers show link to Durrenburg of early PA from Germany. I am finding in Brunswick Co. VA Land Deeds Giles Dewberry living as adult in this area 1757. This was the man tied to Henry Derryberry of early Essex Co. VA. If they had male descends I have no idea.

But researchers should not assume surnames close to Derryberry are all the same family. I have seen Mayberry surname mistaken as "really" being Derryberry.

There was a village in West Riding, Yorkshire, England Dewberry.

I am so glad I ran across your posts!! I've been working on this Group 3 line for almost 15 years now. Frustrating!!

I didn't stay long with Group 3 and Pocohontas though because it didn't make any sense to me, even though others in our family believed it.

I had figured out that Benjamin's dad was probably William who came from Maryland, but I had no way to prove it. I didn't know about a will in Somerset Co. Is that on-line?

My line is proven back to Benjamin and Charity Larrimore, through their son, Jeremiah and his son, Ezekiel.

I've done no DNA testing yet. Since our Bolling line stopped with my gg-grandmother we have no male Bollings in our direct line yo y-test. My sister does live in Wise Co., Va though and I'll be there this summer. I would love to find a male Bolling from Wise to test!

I have mostly the same names as you for John and John, Jr. Where I'm having trouble is connecting Justice, Jesse and Benjamin. And, by the way, I believe the Benjamin, son of William, is a different man than the one who married Charity Larrimore. No proof on that yet though.

Anyways, I'm so pleased to see your research. Gives validation to mine. Thank you!

I'd like to share your message if that's ok with you? Let me know.

Found L.D.S. #306947 Orange Co. NC deed & minute books only date given 1817 for the above case. I do not think the Isaac Morris is my direct ancestor.

Jury finding Issac Morris guilty in "the bill of instrument" The record does not say what he was charged with "taken to the public whipping post 39 lashes on his bare back and cost of 100 pounds fee & cost".

This film is full of others in Orange Co. NC also whipped & fined for having "unlawful relations" resulting in children born "out of wedlock". I do not know if this is the case with Isaac Morris, or he did something else.

My Isaac Morris it is said was in TN in by this time, however the dates are not applied to each case file, just what was done each year.

There was a Isaac Morris who married in Orange Co. NC on 8th Jan 1812 to Nancy CHEEK. And I do not know if or how he is related to my group of Morris/Brown of Orange Co. NC.

Members of our McKay family married into the Cheek family, perhaps others know who this Isaac Morris was who was whipped.

With so much new information I am finding with Shipp & Snyder I have not found the time to post information in connection with my Morris & Brown families which I have found months ago.

I have not run Isaac Morris & Elizabeth Brown through Ancestory.com to see whats others have posted.