robertmackayclan

Halogroups of Sion Monroe Bolen set at R1 b 1 given thanks to the work which appears on line through The Bolling DNA Project (thousands of dollars spend) and his wife Amanda E. Melton J 1 c 8 sample supplied by me (only $309 spend).

I hope over the years to nail down all the rest of my various family groups with documentation & DNA samples. I do not like "Family Tales" when I have science.

Found Ancestry DNA sample of "jsbristol" he descends from John Rust (1719-1811) son of John Rust & Agnes Clements. I descend from their son Samuel Rust.

So we have another link between the family in VA and NC/TN.

He has another surname in common with me Bowling, but I think a different group.

The latest Rucker cousin "dinky21" (Stanberg;Whittington: Bass: Swiegert) descend from Peter's son Wm. I do not see other lines which we share.

Found Ancestry DNA Project sample supply by "Charlesfield10" descend of John Jack Bowling born 1790 Greenbrier VA/WV died 1874 Clay, KY married to Sally.......? born 1801-1853.

He does not give parentage for his line. Other Ancestry Tree supplied the information to link his line with mine.

If researchers would just look at the Family Tree DNA Project Bolling, his line from Benj. Bowling (Group 3) at least 14 Y marker test clearly show this group of Bowling/ Boling etc....no WAY related to the family of Col. Robert Bolling of early VA.

His line Benj. Boling (1734-1832) m. Martha Phelps their son
Wm. Bowling (1755-1830) m. Sarah Fugate son
John Jack Bowling.

His Benjamin brother to my John Bowling (c1730 MD) married to Elizabeth.........?

There is plenty of DNA evidence supporting various lines of this group of Bowling.

In "Shipp Lineage" by Mary Marie Koontz Arrington copy right 1978, page 123 had the marriage listed Frederick Shipp married 25 February 1783 to Barbara Fely (Frey).

When we were living in Rockville, MD about 1985 a woman called me on the phone and told me about the same couple. I do not know if she got the information from the above book or she had another source. In any case, she told me she did not remember where she got the information, but was leaving the county and want to pass along the marriage record.

Well I have been looking for 27 years for the source and place where the marriage did taken place. My Godfrey Shipp did name a son Frederick.

Now I have a good hold on the group of men of early PA I want to trace and said Frederick is not one of them.

The first census of MD for Washington Co. MD has Adam, Frederick & Jacob Shupe. The above Frederick Shupe would be the same man. A Frederick Shupe or Shoop a soldier during the American Revolution from Northampton Co. PA. This location is not an area where my group of Schipp/Ships/Shipp lived. Published book dealing with church records for Washington Co. MD has Shupp listed they were Reformed German. By the 1820's they had removed from this area for Russell Co. VA. I believe later found Shipp in this area and in Franklin Co. PA were in fact part of my group of Shipp from Frederick Co. MD.

The early Shipp researchers really did address the issue of these various different families Shrump/Shupe/Shupp/Shoop, Shue, Shipe and my "Ships" were in fact different families and not the same family with different spelling of the surname.

I now known I am looking for John Frederick Schipp/Shipp of Philadelphia Co. PA and his four sons: Godfrey, John, Anthony & Joseph. Areas of Cumberland Co. PA, Montgomery Co. PA & Frederick Co. MD.

I am looking at three DNA samples which will link together three different branches of the family.

Because of the sharing of researcher Mrs. Goodwin I can check the sites of Donald Derryberry & Guy Derryberry.

Donald Derryberry (was to be my closer distant cousin) his line from Thomas Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN. He shares only on #2 10.32 with Terry Derryberry is line from Jacob Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN. He showing no match with Guy or Bob Derryberry. From what I have seen this amount shows little DNA share between Donald & Terry Derryberry.

Guy Derryberry shares with Bob Derryberry from the line of Adam Derryberry of Maury Co. TN. His line stayed in that county and did not live where my line lived in Henderson Co. TN. They share on #3 53.7 which is a good amount. But the question is it Derryberry DNA that they are sharing?

Guy has a strange entry of Walter Hopgood who I do not know who he is and he does not show up on my site. Connie B. Holmes small bit of DNA on #5 and Lavonna R. Holmes #20 bit more. None of these Holmes woman show up on my site.

I and Linda P. Kirk are 5th cousin twice removed. She descends from Manning Bowling. I descend from his brother.

Found on 6th chromosome

I have examined the marriage record of John Hampton & Martha Brown on L.D.S. film Shrewsbury Quaker Records the marriage took place 3rd day 1st month (Mar) 1686/7.

I am trying to figure out if the pedigree given in various computer banks are correct about her parentage.

I do think that Abraham Brown was her father born c1642 most likely in RI, not in England as reported, Martha was the daughter of Cattron who signed in the "family column" of the above record. Abraham married second to a Mary, other say her maiden name Potter.

I will be reading land deeds for Monmouth Co. NJ and hope to shed more light upon the family of the above Cattron. Now perhaps some of the other names in "Family Column" will lead the way.

In the computer banks they have the father of said Abraham as Nicholas Brown. That is true according to Stillwater books. The locations given in the computer banks I do not believe are correct. According to Stillwater he (Nicholas) was an "Englishman" removed to RI where he died. He might have had more than one wife, one known as Elizabeth, widow of George Parker. The computer banks have her maiden name as Leids. I do not know if that is correct or not. I hope to view RI film early next year, for I am looking for my Josiah Foster in that location.

Now if the parentage for Nicholas Brown is correct in the computer banks the line goes back to John Brown born 1312 in Stanford, LIncolnshire-- I do not know if I will have the time to check all their material. My guess would be it is not correct. I would need to find in RI a records which clearly stated the location said Nicholas lived in England. Have other's found that record, that's is the question. Most likely people are playing the game "pick a Brown" in the records in England.

It would be nice if "people" only send out over the net correct information but we know that is not the case.

My main focus will be trying to find the records for Nicholas to Abraham Brown and his two wives, the rest of it I will leave to others.