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Ancestry DNA project researcher "gannnnnnn1" she descend from Wm. Odell & Sarah Vowles.

Found Ancestry DNA Project researcher "charel165" looking for the parentage of Ruth Odell born 1773 Washington Co. TN died 1840 IL, second husband Wm. Robert Duncan of Washington Co. TN. Her grave marker found on "Fine a Grave".

Her line from Wm. Odell & Sarah Vowles's son Isaac Odell husband to Anne Thompkins. I decend from their son Samuel Odell.

If you think you descend from this couple, plenty of DNA samples on file with Ancestry DNA or Family Tree DNA.

My great-grandmother had a book (only book I have that belonged to her) dealing with Mary Ball, mother of George Washington, because she was "told" by her family members we were related to that Ball Family.

Mike Ball of DNA Project, did response to my request for the Haplogroup for Col. Wm. Ball, ancestor of the said Mary Ball, it is I l.

I got real lucky that a distant Ball cousin of mine-- descendant of Osborn Ball, brother to my John Ball, father of John Washington Ball was also tested "is Rlblb2 or the shorthand notation R-M 269"

A million thanks out to that man !! Don't know his name.

He said that another profile fits the above but he did not additional information about the documented blood line.

It would be nice to have other closer relations tests, but this is a very good start.

I also found another interesting D.N.A site for Mangum Family. They have posted the results for a Mangum man whose marker shows The Duke Marker, for men living in Granville/Orange Co. NC. And they posted they did not WHY !!

I e-mail the web master, but my reponse was returned.

I think I know why the Mangum man is showing a Duke marker. My distant cousin Mary Carrington (daughter of John) was married to Arthur Mangum Jr. and while he was on "his death bed" had an affair with Wm. Duke living the next farm over. They had a son named Green A. Mangum born 1811 and he married but I have no record of the names of his children. Wm. Duke in his will acknowledge that he could have been his son. This is a matter of public record, his will filed in Orange Co. NC. I guess he really was !!!

In any case I will continue to pick away at this D.N.A test results (then I can get a hold of it) trying to apply it to the documentation which I have compiled.

I thought it was Family Tree DNA they were going to try to place the D.N.A of "famous persons" in their data bank. If that's is true that really would help to solve some of these family tales.

I wonder if they have the D.N.A. of President Zachary Taylor to compare to all those present day Taylor researchers who claim descend from him.

I do not.

I have send an e-mail to Family Tree asking the location on their web site where I can find the test results of various surname in their data base.

From the beginning (before DNA) the problem was the marriage bond date between Ephraim Carrington & Priscilla Duke was long after their children's birth years. She died 1843 Orange Co. NC and in her will named Ephraim children as being her children.

Cousin James Cossart/Cozart & Sarah Brinkley through legal documentation we know they had "set up housekeeping" long before they were legally married.

Was this the same case with Ephraim & Priscilla? The question being do I (and others) have Duke ancestry?

Found on Ancestry DNA Project I have many DNA matches with researchers who have Duke, Grendon, Taylor & Lucy ancestry.

So I am now building a case as to Priscilla (Duke) Carrington blood line.

1. Edward Duke born 1538 Benhall Lodge, Suffolk, England wife was Dorothy Jermyn. They had 16 children, one being their daughter Elizabeth Duke who married Nathaniel Bacon. I need to check Bacon researchers from this couple.

2. William Duke married as the third husband to Hannah Grendon. Who was the daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Grendon Her mother married Thomas Stegge, their daughter Grace Stegge married John Byrd. I have Autosomal DNA match with one of their descend.

3. Henry Duke died 1718 Prince George Co. VA m. Elizabeth Taylor. She has an interesting blood line which I have separate DNA matches.

4. Wm. Duke married Elizabeth........? need to find her maiden name to seek additional DNA matches. I have two other DNA matches with their son Joseph.

5. John Duke married Lydia........? need to find her maiden name to seek additional DNA matches. They had children: Wm. (married Mary Carrington sister of Ephraim), Hardyman, Taylor, Samuel & Robert Duke. I know on paper they had issue but seeking DNA matches.

6. Priscilla Duke b. c1760 died 1843 m. Ephraim Carrington. I have many different Carrington DNA matches. I will be seeking additional DNA matches with their children. I have so far two other cousins both from son Sion. Their children: Morgan, Sion, John & Dicey.

You can check the Duke Family Project on Family Tree DNA to try to figure out which group we belong. At the moment I am just collecting Autosomal DNA Match, for that is under my control. It would be nice to have a male Y marker for this line of Duke, but I will not count on that.

I have had for years the book by Mary Taylor Brewer "From Log Cabin to White House".

I quickly figured out my Chapman Taylor of SC & KY was not a member of this group of Taylor. I knew that a group of the Orange Co. VA Taylor had removed to Union Co. KY, but others might have thought the same Taylor as our group in Union Co. KY, but they were not.

You can find on line lots of information about the execution of Dr. Rowland Taylor during the reign of "Bloody Mary".

The ancestry of Elizabeth Taylor who married Henry Duke I do not think is questionable. The DNA evidence supports paper documentation.

I have about 16 pages of matches for Taylor surname, which I need to look at again.

1. Dr. Rowland Taylor m. Margaret Tyndale. Some researchers take his ancestry back a few more generations.

2. Thomas Taylor m. Elizabeth Burwell born died in England. I do not know if the same Burwell of early VA.

3. Thomas Taylor m. Margaret Swinderly, I have Autosomal DNA Match with another one of their sons.

4. John Taylor m. Elizabeth.........? came to VA 1648, I have three Autosomal DNA matches with two other sons.

5. Richard Taylor m. Sarah Barker daughter of Wm. Barker "Mariner", she would marry second to Robert Lucy, his daughter by unknown first wife would marry John Taylor

6. John Taylor m. Henrietta Maria Lucy, daughter of Robert, they had only daughters: Frances, Henrietta Maria (I have a Autosomal DNA match), Sarah & Elizabeth

7. Elizabeth Taylor m. Henry Duke

So in future when I am checking new matches I will be looking for this group of Taylor, Barker, Ward & Lucy

Researcher "amysandvold" looking for the parentage of James C. Taylor born 1778 VA died 1866 KY married Nancy Olive Moore.

Other on Ancestry Trees have a James Francis Taylor married in Orange Co. VA to Frances Moore. But I think these are two different couples. James Francis is from the blood line of Dr. Rowland Taylor.

Found Ancestry DNA Project sample researcher "srmcguire51" looking for parentage of Leonard Edwards born 1796 Orange Co. NC died 1863 married to Sarah McGhee (1799 TN-1835 IL)

I do not see other surnames in his listing that we might share DNA. McGhee I think linked to some of my TN families.

Other supplied his line to:

1. John Edwards born 1733 Wales died 1787 married to Hannah Aperby

2. Charles Edwards born 1768 VA died 1848 married Sarah Dugger. Parents of said Leonard.

Will be seeking out additional information about this line.

Found Ancestry DNA Project researcher "vickiarleas" looking for the ancestry of Elizabeth Edwards born 1737 VA married 3 Feb 1753 Kingston Parish, Gloucester Co. VA to Joshua Longest. She died 1769 same location.

I am interested in her line because would be the right location and time period to be related to my Benj. Edwards.

She has Taylor line, but according to Mary T. Brewer's book her line from "Irish Taylor" found in her book Chapter 14.

She was Dicey Carrington, daughter of John & Jemima Carrington who married Arthur Mangum, not Mary.

There was another Mary Carrington daughter of John Sr. & wife Mary Pamplin who married another Wm. Duke on 9 Aug 1783 in Orange Co. NC

The Dicey Carrington b. 1780 married 22 Feb 1801 in Orange Co. NC to Arthur Mangum Jr. She was living on 1850 Orange Co. NC as a widow. He was the son of Arthur SR. & Lucy Person.

One of Dicey & Arthur Mangum's children Cynthia Mangum born 12 Jun 1803 NC d. 20 Sep 1881 in Orange Co. NC married her cousin Nathaniel Macon "Meeks" Carrington.

I believe I might have full listing of Dicey & Arthur Mangum's children, will check if others interested. Believe published book on Mangum Family which spoke of the affair between Dicey (Carrington) Mangum and Wm. Duke. I have copy of his will.

Found Ancestry DNA Project researcher "rdcarson58" descend of said couple through son Nathaniel Carrrington. I descend from another son Ephramin. Their sister Mary Carrington was the woman who married into Duke family--William.

I am collecting DNA matches to show that said Ephraim's wife Priscilla was the sister of said Wm. Duke.

Ancestry just posted a new Ball Autosomal matches, from emigrate Edward Ball of Christ Church, Middlesex Co. VA

"J.B" descend of John Washington Ball through his son Murray Lewis Ball. Said Murray brother to my great-grandmother Lena (Ball) Shipp

Found on Ancestry DNA Project researcher "bdh413" descend of Benj. Ball & Ann Owen through daughter Anne Ball who married John Smith.

I descend from said Benj's son David.

If you think you descend from this group of Ball of VA, just do DNA test, there are lots of matches waiting for you.

Found on Ancestry DNA web site. I have had for some time the believed line of my Martha Mangum wife of John Bowling.

One DNA sample might start to prove the blood line: John (married to Frances Bennett) to Wm. (married to Mary Person) to Joseph Mangum (wife still unknown looking at Yancey).

I believed Joseph was the father of my Martha, but was not sure enough to posted the information on line. I like to be sure.

I would like to find additional samples from Joseph's known sons.

The eight Mangum samples just show me there was a DNA link among some of the known Mangum living in Granville or Orance Co. N.C. This being a good thing. A number of Mangum men Y markers are being showed to really be Duke.

The sample that caught my eye was Inell McMillon's sample filed under Person family. She descend from John Person & Mary Partridge through their daughter Mary Person (1698-1769) who married 1718 to John Rackley.

The problem is that numerous researchers have taken her Mary Person and marry her to our Wm. Mangum. They have given her a great family tree, problem is I believe it is all wrong.

Only one researcher gave the parentage as Job & Sarah Person.

I will continue to look in the future for more matches.

Found Ancestry DNA Project two different researchers "SuttonPatricia32" & "lgoudy02" descend from John Mangum & Frances S. Bennett through their daughter Mary Ann Agnes Mangum who married John Langston.

I descend from said couple's son Wm.

Found on Ancestry DNA Project researcher "bdh413" descend of Benj. Ball & Ann Owen through daughter Anne Ball who married John Smith.

I descend from said Benj's son David.

If you think you descend from this group of Ball of VA, just do DNA test, there are lots of matches waiting for you.

Researcher "MLTKJohnson1" descend of Benj. Ball through son Benjamin Ball who married Anna Smith.

From the beginning (before DNA) the problem was the marriage bond date between Ephraim Carrington & Priscilla Duke was long after their children's birth years. She died 1843 Orange Co. NC and in her will named Ephraim children as being her children.

Cousin James Cossart/Cozart & Sarah Brinkley through legal documentation we know they had "set up housekeeping" long before they were legally married.

Was this the same case with Ephraim & Priscilla? The question being do I (and others) have Duke ancestry?

Found on Ancestry DNA Project I have many DNA matches with researchers who have Duke, Grendon, Taylor & Lucy ancestry.

So I am now building a case as to Priscilla (Duke) Carrington blood line.

1. Edward Duke born 1538 Benhall Lodge, Suffolk, England wife was Dorothy Jermyn. They had 16 children, one being their daughter Elizabeth Duke who married Nathaniel Bacon. I need to check Bacon researchers from this couple.

2. William Duke married as the third husband to Hannah Grendon. Who was the daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Grendon Her mother married Thomas Stegge, their daughter Grace Stegge married John Byrd. I have Autosomal DNA match with one of their descend.

3. Henry Duke died 1718 Prince George Co. VA m. Elizabeth Taylor. She has an interesting blood line which I have separate DNA matches.

4. Wm. Duke married Elizabeth........? need to find her maiden name to seek additional DNA matches. I have two other DNA matches with their son Joseph.

5. John Duke married Lydia........? need to find her maiden name to seek additional DNA matches. They had children: Wm. (married Mary Carrington sister of Ephraim), Hardyman, Taylor, Samuel & Robert Duke. I know on paper they had issue but seeking DNA matches.

6. Priscilla Duke b. c1760 died 1843 m. Ephraim Carrington. I have many different Carrington DNA matches. I will be seeking additional DNA matches with their children. I have so far two other cousins both from son Sion. Their children: Morgan, Sion, John & Dicey.

You can check the Duke Family Project on Family Tree DNA to try to figure out which group we belong. At the moment I am just collecting Autosomal DNA Match, for that is under my control. It would be nice to have a male Y marker for this line of Duke, but I will not count on that.

Found Family Tree DNA Project Duke they have broken down various Duke DNA test into groups.

I believe my Priscilla Duke male line with Group 4. I BELIEVE her two brother descends: Hardyman & Robert might have test in said study.

According to her chart Henry's son John Taylor Duke mades up the most test results. I have Autosomal DNA Match with this group of Duke.

The group of Duke to right side of chart are the ones I am interested in and they are not linked to said Col. Henry Duke. My line from his other son Wm.

These Duke another "R".