robertmackayclan

Posted: **11:37 AM - Mar 31, 2014**

Trying to figure out the parentage of my Gerrard Edwards I spend about a day going through all my matches for my Edwards surname on Ancestry--8 pages !!!

I am looking at Edwards that lived in Fauquier, King William & Westmoreland Cos. VA. I have found a descend from Martin Edwards and his line goes back to Richard Edwards (1524-1566) who married Helen Griffith. His line from son Edward Edwards. This line also has a link with Richard Cocke of early VA, which I have matches with Cocke researchers.

I have found five different DNA matches going back to Richard Edwards through another son Richard (1566-1625).

These two branches of the same Edwards family not linked together in Ancestry Tree, but the DNA evidence is there are are from the same group.

I have other DNA matches that I have not been able as now to link to this Edwards Family.

There are a number of Edwards who lived in Isle of Wight Co. VA and I have not linked them to the above couple.

Now--the wild thing--in connection with the parentage of Richard Edwards born 1524 died 1566. Said to be the bastard son of King Henry VIII and Agnes Blewitt.

You will find on the net articles about this issue.

Researcher Kenneth A. Conway has his chart on line back to King Henry VIII.

There are direct male Edwards from this group who have their "Y" markers on file Family Tree DNA. I do not know that they claim they have the male marker of King Henry VIII.

Personally I just want to get my Gerrard's line out of VA and most likely back to Wales.

I have posted a message on Ancestry Message Board about establishing the Y marker for my group of Edwards.

I would think a rather simple matter to settle. Considering all the hundreds of Y markers send in to Family Tree. And considering all the Edwards matches I have on Ancestry DNA with my Autosomal project.

I have also send e-mail to Edwards DNA Project on Family Tree DNA. If he is helpful, that would be a first.

Once the numbers are establish for Richard Edwards, then they can be compared to other Edwards men who lived in Wales. With any luck male son of Wm. Edwards can be found.

Then the question is do they match or not. I really think people really do not want the "Family Tale" to be tested by DNA.

Posted: **11:58 AM - Apr 01, 2014**

I just received an e-mail about my Edwards ancestory Gerrard Edwards.

My line from him:

1. Gerrard Edwards b. 1747, d. 1810 Morrisville, Fauquier Co. VA have a copy of his will, named as his wife Jemima and children: Benj., Elijah, Susanna, Milly & Wm. (my line).

2. Wm. Edwards b. 1787 Fauquier Co. VA, d. c1855 Fauquier Co. VA m. Maria Richards, their children: Frances M., Bushrod Payton (my line), James French & Wm. A. Edwards.

3. Bushrod P. Edwards b. 1822, m-1 his cousin Sophia Ann Richards (my line, m-2 Susan L. Rector, d. 1919 Warrenton Co. VA.

4. Mary Ella Edwards b. 1851, m. John Washington Ball, d. 26 Mar 1934 Washington, DC. Their children listed under another posting under children of John W. Ball.

The researcher is looking for the parentage of

Enoch Edwards b. 1804 m. Eliza.........? b. 1814 found on 1850 Fauquier Co. VA census with family of four children. I am guessing they removed out of the State of VA. I would try to find death records in connection with this group.

I have not been able to place this couple in my group of Edwards Family of Fauquier Co. VA.

I believe were several different Edwards Family living in Fauquier Co. VA.

When I first tried to find the ancestry of my Mary Ella I looked at Wesley Edwards & his wife Annsey Gladson, they had a daughter named Mary Julia born 1840, Sarah E. b. 1842, James A. b. 1843, Wm. H. Edwards b. 1844, Nancy Ann Edwards b. 1847, Alex. Marshall b. 1850, Lucy Frances b. 1854, Catherine Roberta b. 1855 & Virginia Anges b. 1858. I believe said Wesley was the son of Franklin Edwards b. c1775 married 12 Jun 1800 in Fauquier Co. VA to Nancy Linton. I have never been able to connect them with my group of Edwards.

If other can help her post a message here. I would hope a well run DNA study of the surname in VA could sort them out from each other.

I have found five Monroe Autosomal DNA Matches which ends up at my ancestor Gerrard Edwards.

1. Andrew Monroe b. 1636 Ross Scotland m. Elizabeth Alexander both died in Westmoreland Co. VA. Researcher "VCD" descend from their son Wm. my line and four other through son

2. Andrew Monroe m. Eleanor Spence, daughter of Patrick & Dorcas Spence, I have matches with her maiden name. Four other researches decend from this couple.

3. Elizabeth Monroe b. 1674, d. 1727 married Thomas Arrington, we have three DNA matches from his father Gerald Arrington.

4. Jane Arrington born 1695, d. 1792 m. John Edwards, many different DNA matches from Edwards Family. Some linked to the emigrate and some not, but believed all from the same family. I am focus on Fauquier & Stafford Cos. VA

5. Benjamin Edwards born c1710 d. 1767 Halifax Co. VA (need to get that location checked out) m. Mary Dawkins, I have three DNA matches back to her emigrate ancestor George Dawkins of Bristol, England

6. Gerrard Edwards b. c1747, d. 1810 Morrisville, Fauquier Co. VA m. Jemima.......? still looking for her maiden name looking at Doggett. We have three DNA matches from his children and the one I believe from his brother's daughter Jemima Edwards who married into Wine/Wines family. He did name his son Bushrod Peyton Edwards. The Bushrod Family is linked with Doggett family.

I remember my Great-Aunt Carrie Shipp saying Shipp Family were related to President Monroe and Robert E. Lee, perhaps they were and I have not found the other yet.

Posted: **1:46 PM - Apr 01, 2014**

I and researcher Mrs. Lodema Lucia both descend from Jacob Shipman (17i46-1792) & his wife Sarah Jane M. Gage. She from brother Matthew and from John R. Shipman who died in Carroll Co. TN.

We would be 4th cousin twice removed.

Found on Ancestry DNA project researcher Michael Newson has surnames: Burleson, Gage & Kittrell found on both sides of my mother's tree one on her father and the other on her mother.

He is looking for Aaron Burleson b. 1722 Monmouth, GB, d. 1782 TN married to Rachel Hendricks

He is looking for the parentage of Nancy Gage 1772-1815 married to Joseph Burleson.

Believe both linked to my Charlotte Shipman's tree who was the mother of Fredonia Jane Derryberry mother of Joseph H. King father of Olive Odillion King mother of Patsy Dee Hopgood.

He also looking for the parentage of John W. Kittrell born 1808 NC died 1837 TN married to Sarah ......? I believe his line from grandson of my Jonathan Kittrell.

My Kittrell married into Rogers who married into Rudd and Rudd into Hopgood.

Posted: **8:30 AM - Apr 02, 2014**

Halogroups of Sion Monroe Bolen set at R1 b 1 given thanks to the work which appears on line through The Bolling DNA Project (thousands of dollars spend) and his wife Amanda E. Melton J 1 c 8 sample supplied by me (only $309 spend).

I hope over the years to nail down all the rest of my various family groups with documentation & DNA samples. I do not like "Family Tales" when I have science.

Found on Ancestry DNA project researcher "Glitter Crump" descend of Wm. Melton & wife Lettice White through their daughter Mildred Melton (1761-1820) married James Eubank, their son Thomas Melton Eubank.

I descend from said couple's daughter Sarah Melton who married her cousin John Melton.

A third DNA match from descend of their son Reuben, who has also send in his Y marker.

So from this couple we have three DNA matches, all coming down to the ancestry of Amanda E. Melton.

Posted: **10:27 AM - Apr 03, 2014**

Found Family Tree DNA researcher Tonia V. Spain is about my 9th cousin. My son Brandan still showing match 10th cousin.

The only information she send me that her Nancy Rust was the granddaughter of John Rust & Agnes Clements.

My line from their son Samuel Rust and we removed from VA down to NC then to TN.

Hope someday to find one of our Rust/McKay cousin turning in a sample.

Found Ancestry DNA Project researcher "Murmillo" descend of Peter Rust (1710 Westmoreland Co. VA d. 1762 same location) daughter Mary Rust born 1731 wife of John Patterson.

I have that her Peter brother to my John Rust (husband to Agnes Clement) they sons of Samuel & Martha Rust.

Peter Rust married Sarah Newton.

Posted: **11:38 AM - Apr 03, 2014**

Match between a researcher who's line from Bartholomew Thatcher born c1665 Uffington, Berkshire, England. I believe found on net this Thatcher family of England to NJ and all parts south & west.

I have not been able to document my line from Martha who married in Hopgood family.

I believe some of these people were Quaker, but I have no idea if at one time my Hopgood were also Quakers.

Researcher "RM." I have discounted that he & I share Branson ancestry. Records prove we are distant Jett/Triplett cousin through John Jett & wife Elizabeth Triplett.

His line of Thatcher is in the right location to be cousin to my line of Thatcher, but I do not have my line back as far as his.

Amos Thatcher born 1704 and died 1798 in NJ husband to Lydia Praul, their daughter Lydia Amy Thatcher.

I am looking for Martha Thatcher born 1790 NJ year and location from 1850 Union Co. KY census) died c1866 in Union Co. KY wife to Daniel Hopgood.

Posted: **12:30 PM - Apr 03, 2014**

Other have taken his Amos Thatcher back to Bartholomew son of the emigrate Richard Thatcher.

This Quaker Family records' show up in Quaker Records in Loudoun & Frederick Co. VA.

I do not see my line of Thatcher linked directly to the family of this Amos Thatcher. One of his son did removed to Berkeley Co. VA/WV where my Daniel & Martha Hopgood lived before they moved to Union Co. KY.

Must be the same family, I just have to find the link.

Posted: **5:30 PM - Apr 03, 2014**

Researcher "AMMW" descend of Martha Thatcher born 1714 Chester Co. PA died 1808 Delaware Co. PA wife to Thomas Long. Her DNA sample does not give parentage.

Other researcher give the father of Martha as Jonathan and he the son of the emigrate Richard Thatcher.

Posted: **9:54 AM - Apr 05, 2014**

Trying to figure out the parentage of my Gerrard Edwards I spend about a day going through all my matches for my Edwards surname on Ancestry--8 pages !!!

I am looking at Edwards that lived in Fauquier, King William & Westmoreland Cos. VA. I have found a descend from Martin Edwards and his line goes back to Richard Edwards (1524-1566) who married Helen Griffith. His line from son Edward Edwards. This line also has a link with Richard Cocke of early VA, which I have matches with Cocke researchers.

I have found five different DNA matches going back to Richard Edwards through another son Richard (1566-1625).

These two branches of the same Edwards family not linked together in Ancestry Tree, but the DNA evidence is there are are from the same group.

I have other DNA matches that I have not been able as now to link to this Edwards Family.

There are a number of Edwards who lived in Isle of Wight Co. VA and I have not linked them to the above couple.

Now--the wild thing--in connection with the parentage of Richard Edwards born 1524 died 1566. Said to be the bastard son of King Henry VIII and Agnes Blewitt.

You will find on the net articles about this issue.

Researcher Kenneth A. Conway has his chart on line back to King Henry VIII.

There are direct male Edwards from this group who have their "Y" markers on file Family Tree DNA. I do not know that they claim they have the male marker of King Henry VIII.

Personally I just want to get my Gerrard's line out of VA and most likely back to Wales.

Researcher "jimnitall" is looking for the blood line of Judith Edwards born c1690, m. 1726 Spotsylvania Co. VA Matthew Gayle.

She does not give her parentage. Other on Ancestry Tree link her with a line I do not believe is correct.

There is a lot of confusing information about the descends of the family of Richard Edwards when you get to the third and fourth generations.

What would be helpful if others started sharing their DNA results.

Posted: **5:09 PM - Apr 06, 2014**

Found Ancestry DNA site researcher "PAJ" is a descend of Rev. Richard Denton through son Nathaniel down the line of his son Richard Denton (1658-1699) husband to Mary Foster Thruston

I descend through Rev. Richard Denton's son Samuel.

If you think you are a descend of this man, then you should be showing the same matches--tons of them.

Found Ancestry DNA project researcher "OliverJ86" descends from Richard Denton & wife Helen Windebank through son Samuel through son Jonas Denton.

I descend from another son of said Samuel, Abraham.

He also shares a Barber line with me.

Wm. Barber (1604-1649) m. Mary Dennett son
Wm. Barber (1640-1699) m. Mary Tarpley son
Capt. Wm. Barber (1679-1721)

I descend through another son Charles.

I did not the two maiden names: Dennett or Tarpley

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