robertmackayclan

I have received through e-mail my D.N.A. report 96 page, I guess if persons who share this Haplogroup would want a copy I can just forward it to you.

My oldest known ancestor was Elizabeth Brown born 1780 Orange Co. NC died c1872 Henderson Co. TN.

Contains nice color picture, I have really not read it.

I have become aware of possible Mitochondrial DNA sample of my great-grandmother Moslena Ball wife of Mathias H. Shipp. The person or persons involved have not directly come forward with this new information. It might be a clue as to the female emigrate ancestor of my grandfather Walter Eugene Shipp.

I will be seeking out new females who are willing to share this new kind of information. And I will be collecting primary sources for this particular line in NJ.I am only listing issue that might contain female blood lines.

Goal to see if DNA Letter "L" matches up with the documentation.

Starting with my great-grandmother:

1. BALL, Moslena b. 1877 VA, d. 1958 FL m. Mathias H. Shipp they had Noreen E. Shipp (two living persons) & Virginia Lee Shipp (I don't know if she had children or a daughter), her mother

2. EDWARDS, Mary Ella b. 1851 VA, d. 1934 DC m. John W. Ball they had Mary Alice Ball m. A. Rosenberger, Alma Watson Ball m. S. Shipp, Bessie A. Ball m. George P. Twombley, said Moslena Ball m. M.H. Shipp and Florence Shipp m. I.C. Wells, her mother.

Before I started doing genealogy this is the farest back in time "The Shipp Family History" went.

3. RICHARDS, Sophia Ann b. 1826 VA, d. c1866 VA m. Bushrod P. Edwards they only had the said Mary E. Edwards, no other female lines to be tested, her mother

4. FLEMING, Jane b. 1798, d. 1876, m. Thompson H. Richards had: said Sophia Ann Richards m. B.P. Edwards and Elizabeth Jane Richards m. T.A. Ramsey, her mother

5. HULETT, Hannah b. c1771 NJ?, d. VA m-1 Francis Marra, m-2 Thomas Fleming
She & Francis Marra believe had a daughter Margaret, she & Thomas Fleming had said Jane Fleming m. T.H. Richards and Mary Fleming who married Andrew Fleming, her mother.

6. LIPPINCOTT, Anna m. Thomas Hulett, she married after his death Wm. Walker removed to Hampshire Co. VA, according to Chancery Suit Filed in Frederick Co. VA had daughters: Winifred Hulett m. Joseph Berry, Sarah Hulett m. David Marney, daughter married to John Rankin & Hannah Hulett married Francis Marra & second to Thomas Fleming, her mother.

7. RAY, Genet b. c1705 NJ m. Daniel Lippincott d. 1741 NJ, I have a copy of his will, they had: Elizabeth Lippincott m. Francis White, Audria Lippincott & said Anna Lippincott m. in NJ to Thomas Hulett.

On the net a researcher has connected Genet RAY family with the Scottish Family of Robert Rea/Rhea who married Janet Hampton. Said Janet Hampton was the daughter of John Hampton of Scotland & Monmouth Co. NJ. I descend through a son of said John Hampton Sr.

Said Robert Rhea will filed in Monmouth Co. NJ named his children: David, Elizabeth, Catherine, Margaret & Mary.

I do not have the Mitochondrial DNA profile for Janet Hampton, could be "L" but I rather doubt it. In any case, the documents filed in Monmouth Co. NJ would show she was not the mother of said Genet Ray.

I am looking for mixed race mother of Genet Ray. This female blood line is showing "L". I believe I need to go back about three more generations.

If you know of another Mitochondrial DNA connected with the above blood line I would appreciate knowning about it directly. So I can spend my time collecting new information about this blood line.

I have viewed a few of this ethic group web sites. I learned some years ago that some researchers believed there might be a connection with my surname Bowling/Bolen etc.....with this group "in hills of North Carolina".

Through DNA Bolling Project we know "Native American" blood line did not come through John Bowling's male line. The John who married Martha Mangum. I a copy of their legal & public Granville Co. NC marriage bond 12 Aug 1790.

He was the son of John Bowling Sr. married to a Elizabeth.........?. I believe married not in NC but in MD or VA. So I think out of the reach of this particular group.

Reeves Bolen's mother Martha Mangum I really need the names of her parents to see if there was connect with said Melungeon. There is a Mangum Family DNA study, but only offer Y marker test results. This family came down from the area of Isle of Wight, Nansemond, Norfolk or Princes Anne Counties VA into Granville Co. NC. I do not know if the marriage laws in NC were the same as in VA, but mixed couples could not legally marry in VA. John Bowling & Martha Mangum were legally married.

Since I do see any Mitochondrial test results on Mangum site I have no idea what Halogroups are connected with Mangum Males.

One of the reason I am interested in Mitochondrial DNA profile for the families of this area of NC is to see if my Reeves Bolen's ancestors really contains any Melumgeon Ancestry.

As far as Reeves Bolen's wife Durainey Carrington families: Carrington, Duke, Cozart/Cossart & Reeves. Could be "mixed blood" in Duke or Reeves, but would like to see evidence. Her grandparents were all legally married and I have copies of marriage bonds.

My Family Tree DNA Path Finder results is showing matches with the above two researchers (they from the same line) and my line from Reeves Bolen's youngest son Sion M. Bolen.

We know a descenant of Reeves's oldest son John did Y DNA test and I will be looking to see if one will do said Path Finder to confirm the children of Reeves Bolen as being his.

This test on Family Tree DNA shows matches with: McKay (stated from Scotland), Snyder, Lehew, Ship, Branson, Mangrum & King.

Will post answers if interesting.

I've been trying to find any shred of evidence that there is Indian ancestry on my mom's side as had been claimed by a number of different relatives there.

The closest I've gotten so far to any ancestors being listed as something other than 'white' is in the Hartless family where several early members were listed as 'Mulatto'. Still doesn't actually prove Indian ancestry but it had been said that Indians in Virginia were reclassified as 'Mulatto'. Need a solid documentation to illustrate that though.

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to exchange information directly with the late Harold Jean Bolen of GA. And I would have asked some direct & hard questions.

Our common ancestors were Reeves Bolen & Durainey Carrington. He descended from his eldest son John W. Bolen and my great-grandmother Dessie G. Bolen from his youngest son Sion M. Bolen.

When I first started to collect information about my great-grandmother Dessie Green Bolen I ran into his material:that the Bolen of Henderson Co. TN were descendants of the Bolling of VA (descendants of Pocahontas). As another researcher told me "he so wanted to be related Pocahontas that he just made up material about the family in North Carolina down from VA." The "Professional Genealogist" who he had hired stopped supplying him material when he saw him twisting, changing, deleting etc....material which did not fit with what he wanted to believe.

There are a lot of other researches (mostly living in the South) who have also supplied materials to others trying to connect their Bowling, Bolen etc...to the Bolling family of VA. The Collection of Papers called "Phelps Works" you can order all on film through L.D.S. library.

Well we now have D.N.A test and the Bolling family of VA has a rather large project collecting samples. I do not know if any of my male Bolen have been tested, but I am sure they are not related to the group that H.J. Bolen has spread information. Most likely they came down from MD into Granville Co. NC.

His materials show up in local newspapers and into others personal libraries. He was going to publish his works, but died before it could be completed, called "A Family History 1476-1976"

I realize it is not good to "speak ill of the dead", but he wasted a lot of my time and money collecting information about the Bolling of VA. Why should I sit by and let others waste their time & money as well.

My cousin from TN send me some picture of the Bolen of Henderson Co. TN that belong to the descendants of John W. Bolen and some could have had "non-white" blood lines, but they would not have been from Pocahontas !!! Perhaps in the future Mitochondrial DNA test might shed light on this mytery.