robertmackayclan

L.D.S. 192633 Bucks Co. PA Church Records:

6 Oct 1810 Daniel Hopgood of Berkeley Co. VA to MARTHA Thatcher of Buckingham TWP of Bucks Co. PA.

In 1991 a member of the L.D.S. church send into their International Genealogical Index, which Genealogy.com has in their data base, that her first name was Mary Ann.

This incorrect informatin has been picked up by various Hopgood researchers who have assigned Daniel Hopgood two wives: Mary Ann and Martha.

Daniel only had one wife Martha Thatcher.

He had with her: Wm. (died 1837), Matilda, George G. (mine line) & Wm. L.

L.D.S. #229314 contains Martinsburgh Gazette Friday, 20 May 1812 NO678 No2 ov Vol XIV has notice of law suit filed in Chancery of Berkeley Co. VA. I will ty to see that film later.

Bethuel Middleton
vs

Daniel Hopgood, John, Elizabeth and Rosanna Hopgood children and heirs of Wm. Hopgood dec'd

This article does not say why the suit was filed. Stated that said John & Elizabeth Hopgood not living in Commonwealth of VA and must come and answer the charges in later issue of this newspaper.

1. Wm. Hopgood died by May 1812. He was not on tax list 1810, 1811 or 1812 had children
1. Daniel Hopgood also named as such on tax list
2. Wm. Hopgood must have died before 1812 also not on later tax list
3. John Hopgood not living in Berkeley Co. VA as of 1812
4. Elizabeth Hopgood not living in Berkeley Co. VA as 1812
5. Rosanna Hopgood

I have been informed that I made an mistake about Osborn Ball,he was not the brother of my John Ball, but belonged to a group living in NC.

Then I was informed by James Ball (claims descendant from the Ball Family of Middlesex Co. VA) submitted his DNA profile #188818 filed as a descendant of Wm. Ball of Essex Co. VA died 1695/6. He claims he was the father of Edward Ball of early Middlesex Co. VA. His Haplogroup same as the above Osborn Ball, but no match with the numbers.

He used as the source for the parentage of Edward Ball from the secondary source a book by Ronald Ames Hill, this book is on net through L.D.S. system.

After looking at this work, the author has supplied no original records supporting the parentage between Wm. to Edward Ball. "Recent research, however, suggests Edward is the son of Wm. Ball..."

I realize that people have submitted information to various computer banks sometimes using their best guess, but I did hope people would only submit their DNA sample under a name which they were sure was their ancestors. I guess I was wrong.

I will continue to hope that one of the brother's male descendants of my great-grandmother's Lena (Ball) Shipp will be interested enough in genealogy to submit a sample.

I plan to order land deeds of Culpeper Co. VA, so I can locate the farm of John Ball.

I have send in another DNA test through Ancestry.com. This test does not give you your various haplogroups, but does give you your various racial groups which make up you from both sides of your tree.

The rangle only covers back to your 9th generation.

I hope this test will settle all my "family tales" about Native American ancestry. I do have a lot of unknown female lines which I now have no idea which racial group they might belong.

This test should settle my great-grandmother Moslena (Ball) Shipp's mitochondrial test results.

I do not know if Family Tree DNA offers the same test.

According to my report person/persons have submitted the parentage of my Elizabeth Brown as James Brown & Jane Denniston. Nice thought-- but given the information about the couple I see no way they could be the parents of my Elizabeth Brown.

I have a good prime suspects as who they were and not above couple.

The report has the statement"Haplogroup J1c8 only recently discovered, less than a year ago, in 2009. To date, there are only 13 who have been identified as J1c8 and joined the haplogroup J project" They also stated that to go into this group MUST be tested at the highest level (67 markers), so there could already be persons in the study who have this grouping, but have not upgraded to 67 marker test.

The report goes on to say "Of the 13 people identified, only five are mapped, 2 in UK, 2 in Germany and 1 in Canada."

"I think it is probably safe to say, given the various data within the project and from your own testing that haplogroup J1c8 was probably born in Germany and then migrated either with the Celtic people or the later Anglo-Saxons to England." Gee, I think that is a safe statement.

Well I know of about 100 plus persons just as the descendants of said Elizabeth Brown, if they were tested (must take 67 marker test to qualify as J1c8) would show a totally different picture.

I hope to expand the areas of the US where Elizabeth's female line traveled. Two areas I am looking at Westmoreland Co. VA, Loudoun Co. VA and perhaps NJ area.

In any case, I am interested in any and all of my TN cousins to consider submitting a D.N.A. test. It's "embarrassing" being the only American in the group. My son sample should show up in a few weeks, so their will be just two of us.

I am looking into set up just one more D.N.A. fund to see if I can get my TN cousins interested in supply D.N.A. samples to Family Tree D.N.A.

Two of her family names Carrington & Cozart (spelled various ways) her ancestors: Sion Carrington (1788-1844) born in NC died Henderson Co. TN and wife Jemima Cozart (1794-1862).

Earlier family researchers have said Sion Carrington line goes back to the emigrate Dr. Paul Carrington of Barbados, his D.N.A. profile is included in the Carrington Study (just 10 people in the study). So we have been given a golden opportunity to see through D.N.A. if we are indeed from those Carrington.

The Family Tree D.N.A. project include no Cozart family study, so I hope Jemima will spark some interest among her distant cousins.

Family Tree DNA as a project like Ancestry.com. However their test cost $289 compared to Ancestry $99.

Family Finder gives results back 5 generations. Both male & female lines.
Ancestry claims to give results backer back in time.

I guess the matter of taste which is better for a researchers needs.

Unfortunately, I did not have the chance to exchange information directly with the late Harold Jean Bolen of GA. And I would have asked some direct & hard questions.

Our common ancestors were Reeves Bolen & Durainey Carrington. He descended from his eldest son John W. Bolen and my great-grandmother Dessie G. Bolen from his youngest son Sion M. Bolen.

When I first started to collect information about my great-grandmother Dessie Green Bolen I ran into his material:that the Bolen of Henderson Co. TN were descendants of the Bolling of VA (descendants of Pocahontas). As another researcher told me "he so wanted to be related Pocahontas that he just made up material about the family in North Carolina down from VA." The "Professional Genealogist" who he had hired stopped supplying him material when he saw him twisting, changing, deleting etc....material which did not fit with what he wanted to believe.

There are a lot of other researches (mostly living in the South) who have also supplied materials to others trying to connect their Bowling, Bolen etc...to the Bolling family of VA. The Collection of Papers called "Phelps Works" you can order all on film through L.D.S. library.

Well we now have D.N.A test and the Bolling family of VA has a rather large project collecting samples. I do not know if any of my male Bolen have been tested, but I am sure they are not related to the group that H.J. Bolen has spread information. Most likely they came down from MD into Granville Co. NC.

His materials show up in local newspapers and into others personal libraries. He was going to publish his works, but died before it could be completed, called "A Family History 1476-1976"

I realize it is not good to "speak ill of the dead", but he wasted a lot of my time and money collecting information about the Bolling of VA. Why should I sit by and let others waste their time & money as well.

My cousin from TN send me some picture of the Bolen of Henderson Co. TN that belong to the descendants of John W. Bolen and some could have had "non-white" blood lines, but they would not have been from Pocahontas !!! Perhaps in the future Mitochondrial DNA test might shed light on this mytery.