robertmackayclan

I have had for years bits and pieces of information dealing with the Hampton Family. I was aware that there were two different Hampton Families living in early Frederick Co. VA--English Group & Scottish Group (mine line).

After I found my Haplogroup I started poking around the Family Tree D.N.A. Project groups to see if I could find my Y markers for my various families. D.N.A. results did settle the "Family Tales" in connection with my Ball & Bolen families. I looked at the Hampton D.N.A. results to see if the two groups had supplied samples. I placed a posting on Gen Forum Hampton to see if descendants of my TN cousins had taken the test.

A woman named Mary Ann........?(does not use last name) tiped me off about the false information about Andrew Hampton on the net. There were two different Andrew Hampton (one was in Battle of Kings Mountain died in Rutherford Co. NC 1805) & Col. Andrew Hampton of Granville Co. NC my line.

Part of my interest in the family of John Hampton of Scotland & NJ., is that the movements of his descendants followed the same path as Robert Mackay Sr. These two families had business dealings in VA. I do not see that there was a connection with the two families in Scotland.

So the line I will be tracing through early Monmouth Co. NJ (know my line), Cecil Co. MD (looking for the second Andrew Hampton of Rutherford Co. NC). Their records filed in Frederick Co. VA I have compiled in book form.

1. John Hampton (Dodson stated son of John) born c1640 lived in Elphinstone, East Lothian, Scotland, d. 1702 will on file, his D.N.A profile on file with Family Tree D.N.A. He had four different woman as mother of his children, my line from wife Martha BROWN. He, wife and five children came to colonies in the ship "Exchange". I have order many Quaker Records in the above location did find Hampton information, but no information found for Mackay. The fact that other Scots coming into NJ from Scotland their names have been recorded. Really firms up my OPINION that our Robert Mackay came down into NJ from another colony and most likely born in this county, most likely MA. I need early NJ record more to find information on all said John Hampton's children. Of course, at the time I viewed Scottish Quaker Records, I had not found the land deed filed in Middlesex Co. NJ dated 1705 that Robert Mackay at that time was not a Quaker.

2. Noah Hampton b.c1692 in Freehold, Monmouth Co. NJ, d. 1774 Hampshire Co. VA/WV I have a copy of his will, married to Sarah....... while in NJ, name of wife in his will Alse.........? need to look at later land deeds for this location to see if I can find estate papers of his widow. His will named only one son Andrew. The maiden name of said Sarah might be found buried in records in NJ, or might not. His brother John was the father of Isabell, George & Thomas, said George's daughter married into our Sowers family.

3. Andrew Hampton b. c1712 Freehold, Monmouth Co. NJ, d. after 1767 Jefferson Co. GA, married Sarah..........?, first record I have dealing with him found in Fairfax Land Suit 1734 or 1735 purchased land on Bullskin Marsh Run from Jost Hite, sold his land filed in later Frederick Co. VA land deeds, then named as Andrew Hampton of Brunwick Co. VA. Sold that land removed to Granville Co. NC where numerous records can be found. He served as Col. in local militia 60 men in his group, listing found in Granville History three Bolling serviced with him. As I am told by others, the problem that now exist is that were is no direct record naming my Zachariah Hampton as son of said Andrew. However there exist records connected the known sons of said Andrew handling the affairs of said Zachariah's sons: John & Nolan(my line). I will have to look in Orange Co. NC & Granville Co. NC for more records. Found Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site by Vance Peterson has mixed together the land deeds of "my Andrew Hampton" as being those of Andrew Hampton who died in Rutherford Co. NC. Also various researchers have posted incorrect information about each man's children. Some of the uncounted for Hampton men turning up in NC could have been from another branch of John Hampton's sons, but instead people have tried to connect them with Andrew Hampton of Rutherford Co. NC.

4. Zachariah Hampton b. c1748 Orange Co. VA, d. 8 Sep 1781 Battle of Eutawville, SC m. Mary Knowland, we have from wills on her side of the family name of two sons: John & Nolan.

5. Nolan Hampton b. 1770 Orange Co. VA, 1849 Carroll Co. TN m. 30 Mar 1793 in Orange Co. NC to Winifred Cozart.

Above are the areas I will be working and I hope to learn more about the Hampton & Mackay families. It is not my goal to chase hundreds of Hampton around the US, I have a listing of 115 descendants of John Hampton of Scotland and those will be the only names I will be pulling information.

I have send in another DNA test through Ancestry.com. This test does not give you your various haplogroups, but does give you your various racial groups which make up you from both sides of your tree.

The rangle only covers back to your 9th generation.

I hope this test will settle all my "family tales" about Native American ancestry. I do have a lot of unknown female lines which I now have no idea which racial group they might belong.

This test should settle my great-grandmother Moslena (Ball) Shipp's mitochondrial test results.

I do not know if Family Tree DNA offers the same test.

In will of John King devised to his daughter Betsey his slave Jenny (girl) and his wife Sally to have use for her natural life Abraham (man) & Beck (woman).

Listed in his inventory total number of slaves: Abraham (man), Martin (boy), Beck (woman), three girls: Jenny, Winney & Clarindy. Year 1797.

My Thomas King by age grouping
in 1830 Perry Co. TN had one slave female 10-23
in 1840 Perry Co. TN had one male 10-23 & 1 female under 10
in 1850 Benton Co. TN had 44 female & 19 male
in 1860 Benton Co. TN had 32 female, 30 male, 25 female, 14 male

I do not think Thomas' slaves will be linked back to his father's slaves of Wake Co. NC, but I want to find out for sure.

Part of my research is to find all Haplogroup found on my pedigree charts, not a easy task.

Thanks to the effort of a distant cousin Guy Derryberry, he found my distant cousin Donald Derryberry who also descends from Thomas Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN who took the DNA test.

You can find the same pattern of numbers on Y-Search under Andy Lynn Derryberry's (line of Adam) numbers the same as Guy Derryberry (line of Michael-- his not public) & Donald Derryberry (line of Thomas his not public).

R1b1a2 13,22,15,10,11,14,12,12,11,13,13,28

You can find the rest of the number on Y-Search

The emigrate ancestor was Hans Michael Torenberger arrived 1738 in the boat "Robert & Oliver" (another source said "Robert & Alice").

One place in PA given as his residence Lehigh Co. PA (formed from Northampton Co. PA in 1812).

I have already viewed tax list for Northampton and I have not found said Hans Michael. I will be ordering film dealing with Philadelphia Co. PA for my Schipp/Ships will see if I can find him in that location.

Hans Michael would have arrived about the same time and perhaps the same location as my John Frederick Schipp.

Ancestry Beta Test states that my profile:

77 % British Isles
18 % Eastern European
5 % Uncertain

"Your genetic ethnicity reveals where your ancestors lived hundreds--perhaps even thousands--of years ago. This may update over time as new genetic signatures are discovered"

Some of the above percents I find puzzeling with what I know from other DNA test results that I have collected.

Perhaps they are including my German ancestry in with British Isles ?

Eastern European--Belarus, Poland, Ukraine, Romania & Greece. I have no idea that my known ancestors lived in that area. Of course, I do have missing surnames in connection with various branches of my family.

"Uncertain" percent could be the African "L" in connection with Lena (Ball) Shipp.

If these results are correct, one fact is clear-- no NATIVE AMERICAN blood lines which is a "Family Tale" found on both sides of my family.

I have send in another DNA test through Ancestry.com. This test does not give you your various haplogroups, but does give you your various racial groups which make up you from both sides of your tree.

The rangle only covers back to your 9th generation.

I hope this test will settle all my "family tales" about Native American ancestry. I do have a lot of unknown female lines which I now have no idea which racial group they might belong.

This test should settle my great-grandmother Moslena (Ball) Shipp's mitochondrial test results.

I do not know if Family Tree DNA offers the same test.

DNA as turn another one of my family history on its head.

My grandfather Roy D. Hopgood's family it appears lived for a time in Bucks Co. PA (assuming they originally came from England), spend time in Berkeley Co. VA, then Bucks Co. PA and went down the Ohio River to Union Co. KY by 1820 census.

You can go to Y Search and my cousin James F. Hopgood's DNA pattern on file and another sample can be found from HOBGOOD. They are not even a close match. My uncle Earl H. Hopgood also has a sample, but he has not shared that information with me.

The founding father of HOBGOOD-- Thomas Hobgood of early Norfolk Co. VA his will on file. One of his grandson removed down to Granville Co. NC. One of these men named Thomas married a Cozart woman (also found in my mother mother family) they removed to Hopkins Co. KY. Always using the surname Hobgood. There is a small town in Granville Co. NC called Hobgood. One of my Hopgood cousin took his picture, thinking he being a cousin.

These are two different families and modern researchers just thought clerks are mixing together a "b" with "p".

I also think that the parentage of my Daniel Hopgood born 1788 VA will be found in Bucks Co. PA. I think the Wm. Hopgood who died in Union Co. KY most likely elder brother of said Daniel. Time will tell.

Well, they have done a lot of work since I last check out their site.

Group 1--String R & W has the samples supplied by Robert Bolling of VA
given as Fh480 Rlbl (has all the other numbers)

Group 3--String U3 John Bowlin c1762 Martha Mangum Fh419 Rlbl

I will have to search the other entries, for I am looking for men tested that lived in Charles Co. MD.