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Posted: 7:44 AM - Jul 11, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I have order additional reports about my J 1 c 8 results. If they give any interesting information I will pass it along. The two matches I received notice "being a match" have not been helpful.
This results, however, has settle any thought this female line contained African-American or Native American.
The following surnames I will be trying to tract through legal & public records: starting with my grandmother:
1. Olive Odillion KING born 29 Oct 1906 (born on mother's birth date) Yuma, Carroll Co. TN died 22 Jun 1982 Silver Spring, Montgomery Co. MD m. Roy Dennis Hopgood, she had one sister who could have passed along the same Mitochondrial markers. She was the daughter of:
2. Dessie Green BOLEN b. 29 Oct 1885 Bowling Green, Warren Co. KY, died 4 Nov 1967 Alton, Madison Co. KY married Joseph Hulon King, she had sisters who could have passed along the same D.N.A. markers. She was the daughter of:
I have a picture (me, my mother, O.O. King & D.G. Bolen) of the four generations of this direct line. I have personal knowledge of all the women in this direct line and offical records.
3. Amanda E. MELTON b. 25 Aug 1853 Henderson Co. TN, d. 30 Aug 1888 Yuma, Carroll Co. TN m. Sion Monroe Bolen, she was the only daughter of:
I have a picture of Amanda E. with my gr-grandmother as an infant.
4. Frances L. MORRIS b. 1824 Henderson Co. VA, d. 13 Aug 1878 Henderson Co. TN married Cornelius Melton, she had a sister and they were the daughter of Elizabeth
5. Elizabeth BROWN b. 1780 in Orange Co. NC, d. after 1872 Henderson Co. VA, married Isaac Morris. For the 1870 Henderson Co. TN she was living with her daughter Frances L. (Morris) Melton and her granddaughter Amanda E. Melton. So my line is set for seven generations.
The records I have order and studied for Henderson Co. TN, I can't find a legal document naming the parents of said Elizabeth (Brown) Morris. If the records exist then I will have to find them in other counties in TN or in Orange Co. NC.
I am still looking for good documentation as to the children of Isaac Morris & said Elizabeth Brown.
I am aware others have posted information about my line on the "net" and a good amount of the information they do not give their sources.
I have send in another DNA test through Ancestry.com. This test does not give you your various haplogroups, but does give you your various racial groups which make up you from both sides of your tree.
The rangle only covers back to your 9th generation.
I hope this test will settle all my "family tales" about Native American ancestry. I do have a lot of unknown female lines which I now have no idea which racial group they might belong.
This test should settle my great-grandmother Moslena (Ball) Shipp's mitochondrial test results.
I do not know if Family Tree DNA offers the same test.
Posted: 12:20 PM - Jul 11, 2012
Michael McKay
I want to take that test too. Same reason. I have ancestors recorded as Mulatto and we've always heard tales of Indian blood on my mom's side.
Posted: 5:11 PM - Jul 11, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I do not think you have to be a member of Ancestry to order their test. If you can believe what they state there is a waiting list to get the test kit.
My guess would be members would get on the list first.
Cost of $99 plus shipping $103.
Posted: 12:30 PM - Jul 14, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
DNA as turn another one of my family history on its head.
My grandfather Roy D. Hopgood's family it appears lived for a time in Bucks Co. PA (assuming they originally came from England), spend time in Berkeley Co. VA, then Bucks Co. PA and went down the Ohio River to Union Co. KY by 1820 census.
You can go to Y Search and my cousin James F. Hopgood's DNA pattern on file and another sample can be found from HOBGOOD. They are not even a close match. My uncle Earl H. Hopgood also has a sample, but he has not shared that information with me.
The founding father of HOBGOOD-- Thomas Hobgood of early Norfolk Co. VA his will on file. One of his grandson removed down to Granville Co. NC. One of these men named Thomas married a Cozart woman (also found in my mother mother family) they removed to Hopkins Co. KY. Always using the surname Hobgood. There is a small town in Granville Co. NC called Hobgood. One of my Hopgood cousin took his picture, thinking he being a cousin.
These are two different families and modern researchers just thought clerks are mixing together a "b" with "p".
I also think that the parentage of my Daniel Hopgood born 1788 VA will be found in Bucks Co. PA. I think the Wm. Hopgood who died in Union Co. KY most likely elder brother of said Daniel. Time will tell.
Daniel Hopgood was taxes for lots in Morgantown, Union Co. KY in 1860 and on 1861 his lots were administer by G.G. Hopgood.
Posted: 12:29 PM - Jul 15, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
L.D.S. #2024480 Berkeley Co. VA/WV tax list covers 1800-1813.
I have been looking for the name of my Daniel Hopgood's father for about 30 years. WILLIAM
Listed on tax list for Berkeley Co. VA
1809 Wm. Hopgood for self & his son Daniel (so birth year of 1788 good)
1810 Wm. Hopgood for self & his son Wm. (so birth year of about 1789)
Daniel Hopgood in his own household.
Second golden film #8251 Union Co. KY tax list:
1819 is the first year only Daniel & John Hopgood start living in Union Co. KY and you can follow these two men down to 1847 year John dies.
Above Wm. Hopgood father of Daniel is not living in Union Co. KY. The fact Wm. Hopgood was never found on census was hard for me to understand.
On tax year 1836 a Wm. Hopgood appears listed as white male over 21 years, but no property. We have known from Union Co. KY census Daniel had a son under 10 in 1820 and 10-20 in 1830 census gone by 1840. It became clear to me this was the unknown oldest son of Daniel. Wm. died 1837 and Daniel & Martha named their last son Wm. L. for his older brother.
So there were three different Wm. Hopgood, father Wm. with two known sons: Daniel & Wm. and then Daniel named his eldest son Wm.
I do not think Daniel's father Wm. died in KY.
Looking for Wm. Hopgood who was living in Berekeley Co. VA/WA by 1793 through 1810.
Before 1793 it doesn't appear that Wm. Hopgood lived in PA in counties of Fayette or Washington Co. PA.
I have film dealing with various counties of NJ, will see if the family lived in this location before VA.
Posted: 7:52 AM - Jul 18, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Part of my research is to find all Haplogroup found on my pedigree charts, not a easy task.
Thanks to the effort of a distant cousin Guy Derryberry, he found my distant cousin Donald Derryberry who also descends from Thomas Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN who took the DNA test.
You can find the same pattern of numbers on Y-Search under Andy Lynn Derryberry's (line of Adam) numbers the same as Guy Derryberry (line of Michael-- his not public) & Donald Derryberry (line of Thomas his not public).
R1b1a2 13,22,15,10,11,14,12,12,11,13,13,28
You can find the rest of the number on Y-Search
The emigrate ancestor was Hans Michael Torenberger arrived 1738 in the boat "Robert & Oliver" (another source said "Robert & Alice").
One place in PA given as his residence Lehigh Co. PA (formed from Northampton Co. PA in 1812).
I have already viewed tax list for Northampton and I have not found said Hans Michael. I will be ordering film dealing with Philadelphia Co. PA for my Schipp/Ships will see if I can find him in that location.
Hans Michael would have arrived about the same time and perhaps the same location as my John Frederick Schipp.
I have found on tax list for said county of NJ in the township of Kingwood a Sarah Dereberry in 1778.
The surname Terryberry can be found on tax list for Tewksbury TWP.
My Thatcher were living in Amwell TWP.
I did not find Hopgood, will try another county of NJ.
Posted: 2:29 PM - Jul 19, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Tax list for Hunterdon Co. NJ in Alexandria TWP--1785 John Dusenberry or Dufenberry as tax payer. This TWP is closer to Kingwood TWP. Part of it on Delaware River. I believe the list after 1785 missing picks back up in 1803, surname gone by that time.
Have additional film on the way for NJ hope to find out more next week. I will have to order additional film for his location for my Derriberry & Thatcher families.
I am going to look for Hopgood in Somerset Co. NJ.
There was a family called Hogeland (Daniel & Derrick) who lived in both Hunterdon Co. NJ & Bucks Co. PA. Other researcher like to think really our Hopgood, but I do not think that is correct. Two different families.
Posted: 2:57 PM - Jul 19, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
L.D.S. #865475 Tax Payers for Hunterdon Co. NJ, in Bethlehem TWP, this section of the film very poor to read. Some of these tax list you can find on Ancestry.com.
1780 Wm. Dusenberry 100a, John Dusenberry 80a & Samuel Dusenberry 50a.
1785 looks like John Duzenberry still in same location
1789 Henry Dussenbury 60a & Johannah Dusenbury
Rest of county unreadable.
We have known for some time from an entry in Rowan Co. NC local history:
"Dusenbery, Samuel a native of NJ a Revoluntionary Office and member of General Assembly from Rowan Co. NC aged about 70 years, died 10 Oct 1829 in Lexington."
Alexandria TWP: John Dusenberry or Dufenberry
Bethelehm TWP: Wm, John & Samuel Dusenberry
Kingwood TWP: Sarah Dereberry
Tewksbury TWP: Jacob Terrberry in 1786 & 1790
I was told Hans Michael lived in Morris Co. NJ area, that film I hope will be coming next week. I have found no Hans Michael in PA or this county of NJ.
I will wait until I find out more about these families from addiitonal original records.
Are they really the same family who spelled the name in different ways, or not related at all?.
Posted: 8:38 AM - Jul 20, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Part of my research is to find all Haplogroup found on my pedigree charts, not a easy task.
Thanks to the effort of a distant cousin Guy Derryberry, he found my distant cousin Donald Derryberry who also descends from Thomas Derryberry of Henderson Co. TN who took the DNA test.
You can find the same pattern of numbers on Y-Search under Andy Lynn Derryberry's (line of Adam) numbers the same as Guy Derryberry (line of Michael-- his not public) & Donald Derryberry (line of Thomas his not public).
R1b1a2 13,22,15,10,11,14,12,12,11,13,13,28
You can find the rest of the number on Y-Search
The emigrate ancestor was Hans Michael Torenberger arrived 1738 in the boat "Robert & Oliver" (another source said "Robert & Alice").
One place in PA given as his residence Lehigh Co. PA (formed from Northampton Co. PA in 1812).
I have already viewed tax list for Northampton and I have not found said Hans Michael. I will be ordering film dealing with Philadelphia Co. PA for my Schipp/Ships will see if I can find him in that location.
Hans Michael would have arrived about the same time and perhaps the same location as my John Frederick Schipp.
L.D.S. #192633 #6 has abtraction from Bucks Co. PA Newspaper
"Mehitabel Dusenberry died 5th Jan 1815, age of 16 years, daughter of Maj. Henry B. Dusenberry of Philadelphia, PA, printed in newspaper 39 May 1815."
I have run this daughter & father through Ancestry.com & Family Search.com computer bank, nothing found on them. Need to find the parentage of said Henry B. Dusenberry.
You can find on "Fine a Grave" this spelling of surname in PA. Early NY marriages four marriages listed. This family could have come into US through NY then down to PA. So really not related to the ones who came directly from Europe into Phildelphia, PA.
Posted: 9:45 AM - Jul 21, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
L.D.S. #865475 Tax Payers for Hunterdon Co. NJ, in Bethlehem TWP, this section of the film very poor to read. Some of these tax list you can find on Ancestry.com.
1780 Wm. Dusenberry 100a, John Dusenberry 80a & Samuel Dusenberry 50a.
1785 looks like John Duzenberry still in same location
1789 Henry Dussenbury 60a & Johannah Dusenbury
Rest of county unreadable.
We have known for some time from an entry in Rowan Co. NC local history:
"Dusenbery, Samuel a native of NJ a Revoluntionary Office and member of General Assembly from Rowan Co. NC aged about 70 years, died 10 Oct 1829 in Lexington."
Alexandria TWP: John Dusenberry or Dufenberry
Bethelehm TWP: Wm, John & Samuel Dusenberry
Kingwood TWP: Sarah Dereberry
Tewksbury TWP: Jacob Terrberry in 1786 & 1790
I was told Hans Michael lived in Morris Co. NJ area, that film I hope will be coming next week. I have found no Hans Michael in PA or this county of NJ.
I will wait until I find out more about these families from addiitonal original records.
Are they really the same family who spelled the name in different ways, or not related at all?.
Surname Dusenberry found in four different NY counties, most interested in Orange Co. NY which on line with NJ.
Early 1790, 1800 & 1810 census for New Jersey lost, so I must search through tax list for the surname.