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Posted: 5:19 PM - Apr 20, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I have been informed that I made an mistake about Osborn Ball,he was not the brother of my John Ball, but belonged to a group living in NC.

Then I was informed by James Ball (claims descendant from the Ball Family of Middlesex Co. VA) submitted his DNA profile #188818 filed as a descendant of Wm. Ball of Essex Co. VA died 1695/6. He claims he was the father of Edward Ball of early Middlesex Co. VA. His Haplogroup same as the above Osborn Ball, but no match with the numbers.

He used as the source for the parentage of Edward Ball from the secondary source a book by Ronald Ames Hill, this book is on net through L.D.S. system.

After looking at this work, the author has supplied no original records supporting the parentage between Wm. to Edward Ball. "Recent research, however, suggests Edward is the son of Wm. Ball..."

I realize that people have submitted information to various computer banks sometimes using their best guess, but I did hope people would only submit their DNA sample under a name which they were sure was their ancestors. I guess I was wrong.

I will continue to hope that one of the brother's male descendants of my great-grandmother's Lena (Ball) Shipp will be interested enough in genealogy to submit a sample.

I plan to order land deeds of Culpeper Co. VA, so I can locate the farm of John Ball.
State of VA Reel 167 #3157 Is the death record filed in Marshall Fauquier Co. VA of Mrs. Roberta V. Ball born 28 Feb 1849, age of death 78 years, 11 months, 23 days, housewife, born in Fauquier Co. VA, father Silas Hume born in VA and mother Sarah Hall born in VA, died 21 Feb 1928 of Cerebral hemonhage, buried 22 Feb near Orlean, Fauuqier Co. VA?

Their marriage record found in my Fauquier Co. VA Marriage Book 1854-1880,he was the son of Hezekiah & Mary Ball (he son of David & Sarah MacNeil Ball) and she daughter of Silas & Sarah Hume.

So the death record does give her mother's maiden name.


Posted: 8:10 AM - Apr 21, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Mt. Pleasant is now in Adam Co. PA, not far from Emmitsburg, Frederick Co. MD. General history of said town stated that people came down into that area from York Co. PA.

I have found two Ship men Jacob (carpenter) & John (farmer) living in this PA area 1781 & 1791.

Since my oldest known Shipp Godfrey born 1785 listed on 1800 Frederick Co. MD, most likely he was born in this area of PA.

Still need to find more information about the surname in this area of PA.
I now know these two men were not members of the group of Schipp/Ship/Shipp I am looking for, but members of Shrump/Shupp Family.


Posted: 11:35 AM - May 01, 2012
DeeAnn Buck
I am looking into set up just one more D.N.A. fund to see if I can get my TN cousins interested in supply D.N.A. samples to Family Tree D.N.A.

Two of her family names Carrington & Cozart (spelled various ways) her ancestors: Sion Carrington (1788-1844) born in NC died Henderson Co. TN and wife Jemima Cozart (1794-1862).

Earlier family researchers have said Sion Carrington line goes back to the emigrate Dr. Paul Carrington of Barbados, his D.N.A. profile is included in the Carrington Study (just 10 people in the study). So we have been given a golden opportunity to see through D.N.A. if we are indeed from those Carrington.

The Family Tree D.N.A. project include no Cozart family study, so I hope Jemima will spark some interest among her distant cousins.
5182 Fulton Street in Washington, DC, she married and three of her five children:

Roy D. Hopgood 53 KY head of household
Odillion Hopgood 33 TN his wife
Batry D. Hopgood 10 DC his daughter should be Patsy D.
Roy E. Hopgood 9 DC his son
Earl N. 9 months his son should be Earl H. (Henry)

DC for 1940 has been indexed check local library, on Ancestry must be a paying customer

Posted: 11:44 AM - May 01, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I have been looking for the death date of my great-aunt Carrie A. Shipp. I found the marriage record for her and first husband in Pr.Wm.Co.VA. Marriage second to Huddleton, divorced in FL, buried as Carrie A. Huddleton b. 21 Nov 1897, d. 2 Apr 1970 First Baptist Church Land O Lake, Pasco Co.FL.

This site also has a picture of her mother and step-father in same cemetery.

Lena (Ball) Shipp' first husband M.H. Shipp buried in Pr.Wm.Co. VA, also can be found "Find a Grave". Booton F. Ball buried next to him and I believe a picture of his grave stone as well.

Great Site !!! Wish I have use of it years ago.
29 Apr 1940 living on V Street NW household of

Lena Shipp 62 widow born in VA,
Howard Huddleson 43 son in law
Carry Huddleson 42 daughter
Walter Shipp 21 born in TX nephew (son of Robert F. Shipp)

So now I think Carry/Carrie first husband gone married by 1940 and married to her last husband by 1940.

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Living on Rhode Island Ave household of

John Shipp 38
Esther Shipp 26 wife
John Shipp 7 son
Jeanett Shipp ....
Homer Shipp 61 widower father

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Living on 5421 Carolina Street household of

Walter Shipp 44 born in VA
Danely L. Shipp 48 wife should be Daisy L.
Wallace E 16 his son
Evelyn R. 15 his son
Ralph E. 12 his son
Gloria L. 9 his daughter
Thomas M. 6 his son


Posted: 5:39 PM - May 01, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
L.D.S. Lab has DC on line, said Carrie S. Shipp second marriage in DC (divored first husband in Charleston, WVA 11 Oct 1936 in DC to Howard L. Huddleton (first marriage divored in Seattle, WA).

Other members of this family found on line married in DC.


Posted: 4:53 PM - May 11, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Found on "Fine a Grave" and site by Rockingham Historical Society listing of grave found The Shipp Family Cemetery east of Elkton. The family of James Albert Shipp (1841-1916) his wife and children buried in this location.

This James A. Shipp was not related to the "my" Shipp Family. The oldest known Godfrey who died in Shenandoah Co. VA c1830.

One of said Godfrey's son Wm. Shipp removed down to Rockingham Co. VA and he and his wife and children buried in Mountain View Cemetery in said county.

Since my John removed down to Rockingham Co. VA to marry his second wife I am still looking for the location of his death.

James A. Shipp lived in Madison Co. VA before removing to Rockingham Co. VA.
Found on State of VA Reel 21 death certificate for Solomon SHEPP who died 1 Apr 1914 in Rockingham Co. VA, widower born in VA Jan? 1 1824, occupation cooper, father George Shepp born in Germany, mother ..........Helish? born in Germany.

Just as my John Shipp removed to Rockingham Co. VA and starting using two "PP" in his name, this family appears in the same locatio.

Very hard to tell the different Shipp or Shepp.

Posted: 4:09 PM - May 20, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
Looking for my distant Ball cousins who might be interested in submitting a D.N.A. sample.

Years ago I found the grave marker of Booten French Ball with his parents and brother-in-law at C.S.A. cemetery in Manassas, VA.

Since, he was buried without a wife, I wrongly assumed he was single. However, I have found him on the later Federal Census in Pr.Wm.Co.VA. with wife Alma F. and children. It would appear they had two sons: Clifford D. Ball & Clay W. I did find the marriage record for Clifford D. Ball on the Pr.Wm.Co.VA Marriage Registry. Information found on this record "Clifford D.Ball age 22 years, born & living in Pr.Wm.Co.VA, parents Booten Ball & Alma F. Mohler, shipping clerk, married 22 Jun 1929 to Aileen H. Shifflet 19 years, born College Park, MD, living in Manassas, VA, parents David Shifflet & Ivan? Kane"

His brother Murray Lewis Ball, his marriage record in Pr.Wm.Co.VA, living in Fairfax Co. VA list his name as Murray E. Ball, parents John W. & Mary E. Ball married 23 Jan 1907 to Lillian Breen 22 years, parents John J. & Fannie Breen.

I can't seem to find them on the census. Both brothers of my great-grandmother Moslena/Lena (Ball) might have living male Ball descendants.

She had other brothers: Gideon (have not found a death record), John Jackson (have not found a death record), Miller (died @2 years) & Washington (have not found a death record).

As far as I can tell, no one else has the above information about these two men on the net.
Of Manassas, Prince Co. VA found the grave of said Booten F. Ball's son

Clay Wilson Ball born 9 Mary 1913 died 7 Dec 1980 and his wife
Sallie Thomasson born 26 Dec 1917, died 28 Mar 1976

You can see the cemetery off Rt. 28. It was once German Baptist Brethan Church established 1896.

Booten F. Ball found 1920 Prince Co. VA census

Posted: 2:59 PM - May 28, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I have order additional reports about my J 1 c 8 results. If they give any interesting information I will pass it along. The two matches I received notice "being a match" have not been helpful.

This results, however, has settle any thought this female line contained African-American or Native American.

The following surnames I will be trying to tract through legal & public records: starting with my grandmother:

1. Olive Odillion KING born 29 Oct 1906 (born on mother's birth date) Yuma, Carroll Co. TN died 22 Jun 1982 Silver Spring, Montgomery Co. MD m. Roy Dennis Hopgood, she had one sister who could have passed along the same Mitochondrial markers. She was the daughter of:

2. Dessie Green BOLEN b. 29 Oct 1885 Bowling Green, Warren Co. KY, died 4 Nov 1967 Alton, Madison Co. KY married Joseph Hulon King, she had sisters who could have passed along the same D.N.A. markers. She was the daughter of:

I have a picture (me, my mother, O.O. King & D.G. Bolen) of the four generations of this direct line. I have personal knowledge of all the women in this direct line and offical records.

3. Amanda E. MELTON b. 25 Aug 1853 Henderson Co. TN, d. 30 Aug 1888 Yuma, Carroll Co. TN m. Sion Monroe Bolen, she was the only daughter of:
I have a picture of Amanda E. with my gr-grandmother as an infant.

4. Frances L. MORRIS b. 1824 Henderson Co. VA, d. 13 Aug 1878 Henderson Co. TN married Cornelius Melton, she had a sister and they were the daughter of Elizabeth

5. Elizabeth BROWN b. 1780 in Orange Co. NC, d. after 1872 Henderson Co. VA, married Isaac Morris. For the 1870 Henderson Co. TN she was living with her daughter Frances L. (Morris) Melton and her granddaughter Amanda E. Melton. So my line is set for seven generations.

The records I have order and studied for Henderson Co. TN, I can't find a legal document naming the parents of said Elizabeth (Brown) Morris. If the records exist then I will have to find them in other counties in TN or in Orange Co. NC.

I am still looking for good documentation as to the children of Isaac Morris & said Elizabeth Brown.

I am aware others have posted information about my line on the "net" and a good amount of the information they do not give their sources.

DNA as turn another one of my family history on its head.

My grandfather Roy D. Hopgood's family it appears lived for a time in Bucks Co. PA (assuming they originally came from England), spend time in Berkeley Co. VA, then Bucks Co. PA and went down the Ohio River to Union Co. KY by 1820 census.

You can go to Y Search and my cousin James F. Hopgood's DNA pattern on file and another sample can be found from HOBGOOD. They are not even a close match. My uncle Earl H. Hopgood also has a sample, but he has not shared that information with me.

The founding father of HOBGOOD-- Thomas Hobgood of early Norfolk Co. VA his will on file. One of his grandson removed down to Granville Co. NC. One of these men named Thomas married a Cozart woman (also found in my mother mother family) they removed to Hopkins Co. KY. Always using the surname Hobgood. There is a small town in Granville Co. NC called Hobgood. One of my Hopgood cousin took his picture, thinking he being a cousin.

These are two different families and modern researchers just thought clerks are mixing together a "b" with "p".

I also think that the parentage of my Daniel Hopgood born 1788 VA will be found in Bucks Co. PA. I think the Wm. Hopgood who died in Union Co. KY most likely elder brother of said Daniel. Time will tell.


Posted: 5:55 PM - Jun 13, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
L.D.S. #2024480 Berkeley Co. VA/WV tax list covers 1800-1813.

I have been looking for the name of my Daniel Hopgood's father for about 30 years. WILLIAM

Listed on tax list for Berkeley Co. VA

1809 Wm. Hopgood for self & his son Daniel (so birth year of 1788 good)
1810 Wm. Hopgood for self & his son Wm. (so birth year of about 1789)
Daniel Hopgood in his own household.

Second golden film #8251 Union Co. KY tax list:

1819 is the first year only Daniel & John Hopgood start living in Union Co. KY and you can follow these two men down to 1847 year John dies.

Above Wm. Hopgood father of Daniel is not living in Union Co. KY. The fact Wm. Hopgood was never found on census was hard for me to understand.

On tax year 1836 a Wm. Hopgood appears listed as white male over 21 years, but no property. We have known from Union Co. KY census Daniel had a son under 10 in 1820 and 10-20 in 1830 census gone by 1840. It became clear to me this was the unknown oldest son of Daniel. Wm. died 1837 and Daniel & Martha named their last son Wm. L. for his older brother.

So there were three different Wm. Hopgood, father Wm. with two known sons: Daniel & Wm. and then Daniel named his eldest son Wm.

I do not think Daniel's father Wm. died in KY.


Posted: 8:14 AM - Jun 23, 2012
Dee Ann Buck
I have no idea who some of the people are who placed information into their system about Wm. Harvey Shipp & his wife Priscilla A. Bridges.

Wm. Harvey Shipp did not died in Pittsburgh, PA, his father's name was just John Shipp, no middle name William. This couple had 12 children (which can be confirmed from birth, death registries and census) 9 alive for 1910 census.

1. John L. Shipp
2. Milton E. Shipp
3. Socrates B. Shipp
4. Franklin Shipp
5. Samuel C. Shipp
6. Cora A. Shipp died c1879
7. Mathias H. Shipp, my great-grandfather
8. Carry Shipp died c1909
9. Homer B. Shipp
10. Dewitt Shipp died c1900
11. Jacob Harvey Shipp
12. Nannie L. Shipp

Said Cora, Carry & Dewitt died before their parents.

There never existed Murray Shipp b. c1882 m. 1907 Mildred Shipp.
My great grandfather Mathias H. Shipp spend time in Pittsburgh, PA his daughter Noreen was born in this location in 1903.

Three of his brothers: Socrates B., Milton E. & Franklin Shipp also spend time in this location and two of his nephews: Martin L. & Wm. T. sons of John L. Shipp.

I was particularly interested in the posting "Find A Grave", "Shipp, infant, d. 1907".

I am looking for the four children that Mathias & Lena had who died as young children or infants, three by 1910 and one more after 1910 before 1916.

The above Shipp, infant (still born) who died and found on this site, was the grandson of a Matilda R. Shipp. Her death record can also be found L.D.S. site on line Pittsburgh, PA Deaths. This record stated that she was married, but did not give her husband's name. The said infant was buried in her plot with the permission of her children (not named). That information from a film "Day Book" of said grave yard. Can be rented for $7.50 through L.D.S. library system.

I do not think she is related to the other group of Shipp, the family of Conrad Shipp & his wife Mary. You can find them on the census and the rest of the items on "Find of Grave".

If these two other groups of Shipp were related to my group of Shipp founded by John Frederick Schipp of early Philadelphia, PA, I do not know.