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Posted: 5:49 PM - Sep 16, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
According to the Miller researcher in the last e-mail. Margaret parents were Thomas & Agnes (Leech) Lackey born in Ireland.

www.familysearch.org

I just put in Samuel Miller marriage c1785 and under their Pedigree Resource section his information will be found.

Said Margaret Lackey born c1767 in Lancaster Co. PA, died 1854 in Rockbridge Co. VA, buried in Miller-Irwin Cemetery of Rockbridge Co. VA. She is on the census.

The information he has included in his computer file appears to check out with the VA records I have on hand.

The fact remains do not know if your Robert was really one of the sons of said Samuel or Wm.


Posted: 8:55 PM - Sep 16, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
Found in John Vogt's Marriage Book Rockbridge Co. Marriage 1778-1850 your

Robert Miller & Magdalene Simonds 20 Nov 1823, d. John dec'd, minister V.M. Mason, Baptist. It would appear was the same couple listed on later MO census.

According to earlier John Vogt's marriage book & coupled with earlier census for Rockbridge households which had a male right age group for your Robert Miller born 1795, would be Andrew, Catherine, Samuel & Wm.

The only marriages I can find for that location would be for:

Samuel Miller & Margaret Lackey (sic) 29th Dec 1787, daughter of Thomas and

Wm. Miller & Elizabeth Lecky (sic) 24th Jun 1785, daughter of Thomas, son of Henry.

Now IF we can believe the information found in L.D.S. family search given by

Alan Newton Miller
1225 West Grauwyler Road
Irving, TX 75061-2206

he has placed the pedigree chart for the above Samuel Miller born 1 Nov 1760 in Lancaster Co. PA, died 26 Apr 1846 in Rockbridge Co. VA, married 1 Jan 1787 in Rockbridge to Margaret Lackey. His father Henry Miller born 1726 Londonderry Ireland, died Sep 1797 Rockbridge Co. VA, married @1755 in Londonderry, Ireland to Rebecca Beggs born 1736 Londonderry, Ireland died 1816 in Rockbridge Co. VA.

It would appear then said Samuel & Wm. Miller were brothers. My guess is that said Margaret & Elizabeth were also sisters. I did not check to see if their parentage was placed in the system.

Of course, the big question was your Robert the son of one of the above men. I do not think the compiled books at Fairfax Public Library will be helpful. We need land deeds & wills for the location.

If your problem were mine, which it is not.

I would write to Alan Miller. You might check the Family Tree D.N.A. project to see if test samples have been send in to the project. I do not know anything about the female surname Lackey, Leckey etc....might be the same family or two different families. Might Google the surname or check L.D.S. listing of films.

I did find on 1850 Rockbridge Co. VA census these Miller living next to Michael's Smith family of Rockbridge. You-all can exchange information about this county. He might know of records on line.

I think Wm. also died before 1850 census. Stated that Samuel Miller died 1846. I can get the wills for the county through State of VA library system. I just order some film, so it will have to wait for a few weeks. Just depends how fast they send my my film.

Hope all this works out for you. I do not "do Ireland".

Your Taggart/Tagart I see all over the map (MD, VA, NC). I need additional information about the James Tagart, do you know where he was born and when he entered MO?.

Two members of the L.D.S. have filed the birth & death dates of your Robert Miller as 26 Feb 1796 born in Nelson, the same marriage date and death date of 30 Apr 1871 does not say where. The parentage not given. I know where they would have found the marriage date, where did they get birth & death dates ?

His wife birth date given as 22 Jun 1806 and died 11 Feb 1880. You may or may not have interest in her dates, depend on if you descend from just Robert Sr. or their son Robert Jr.

Posted: 9:18 PM - Sep 16, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
Found in John Vogt's Marriage Book Rockbridge Co. Marriage 1778-1850 your

Robert Miller & Magdalene Simonds 20 Nov 1823, d. John dec'd, minister V.M. Mason, Baptist. It would appear was the same couple listed on later MO census.

According to earlier John Vogt's marriage book & coupled with earlier census for Rockbridge households which had a male right age group for your Robert Miller born 1795, would be Andrew, Catherine, Samuel & Wm.

The only marriages I can find for that location would be for:

Samuel Miller & Margaret Lackey (sic) 29th Dec 1787, daughter of Thomas and

Wm. Miller & Elizabeth Lecky (sic) 24th Jun 1785, daughter of Thomas, son of Henry.

Now IF we can believe the information found in L.D.S. family search given by

Alan Newton Miller
1225 West Grauwyler Road
Irving, TX 75061-2206

he has placed the pedigree chart for the above Samuel Miller born 1 Nov 1760 in Lancaster Co. PA, died 26 Apr 1846 in Rockbridge Co. VA, married 1 Jan 1787 in Rockbridge to Margaret Lackey. His father Henry Miller born 1726 Londonderry Ireland, died Sep 1797 Rockbridge Co. VA, married @1755 in Londonderry, Ireland to Rebecca Beggs born 1736 Londonderry, Ireland died 1816 in Rockbridge Co. VA.

It would appear then said Samuel & Wm. Miller were brothers. My guess is that said Margaret & Elizabeth were also sisters. I did not check to see if their parentage was placed in the system.

Of course, the big question was your Robert the son of one of the above men. I do not think the compiled books at Fairfax Public Library will be helpful. We need land deeds & wills for the location.

If your problem were mine, which it is not.

I would write to Alan Miller. You might check the Family Tree D.N.A. project to see if test samples have been send in to the project. I do not know anything about the female surname Lackey, Leckey etc....might be the same family or two different families. Might Google the surname or check L.D.S. listing of films.

I did find on 1850 Rockbridge Co. VA census these Miller living next to Michael's Smith family of Rockbridge. You-all can exchange information about this county. He might know of records on line.

I think Wm. also died before 1850 census. Stated that Samuel Miller died 1846. I can get the wills for the county through State of VA library system. I just order some film, so it will have to wait for a few weeks. Just depends how fast they send my my film.

Hope all this works out for you. I do not "do Ireland".

Your Taggart/Tagart I see all over the map (MD, VA, NC). I need additional information about the James Tagart, do you know where he was born and when he entered MO?.

If your Robert Miller really was born in Nelson (next to Rockbridge) that county was formed from Amherst Co. VA.

Found a marriage record in that location early enough to be Robert's parents:

Simon Miller & Catey Lunsford (daughter of Wm.) married 19 Mar 1792. She could have removed into Rockbridge Co. VA.

Could be all the same family, it would appear others are working on this family.

Lunsford a very old VA family they inter-married with my Melton & Fortune families of Albemarle Co. VA (just north of Nelson) then down to Rutherford Co. NC and on to TN.

Posted: 8:14 AM - Sep 17, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
Two members of the L.D.S. have filed the birth & death dates of your Robert Miller as 26 Feb 1796 born in Nelson, the same marriage date and death date of 30 Apr 1871 does not say where. The parentage not given. I know where they would have found the marriage date, where did they get birth & death dates ?

His wife birth date given as 22 Jun 1806 and died 11 Feb 1880. You may or may not have interest in her dates, depend on if you descend from just Robert Sr. or their son Robert Jr.
Listed on the books & films in L.D.S. collection a book dealing with St. Charles Co. MO Cemeteries by Lucille W. Wiechens.

I suspect the researcher who placed the information into L.D.S. computer bank has seen this book. Unless he or she has personal information surrounding your family.

The book is not offer on fiche or film.

Posted: 4:32 PM - Sep 17, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
Found in John Vogt's Marriage Book Rockbridge Co. Marriage 1778-1850 your

Robert Miller & Magdalene Simonds 20 Nov 1823, d. John dec'd, minister V.M. Mason, Baptist. It would appear was the same couple listed on later MO census.

According to earlier John Vogt's marriage book & coupled with earlier census for Rockbridge households which had a male right age group for your Robert Miller born 1795, would be Andrew, Catherine, Samuel & Wm.

The only marriages I can find for that location would be for:

Samuel Miller & Margaret Lackey (sic) 29th Dec 1787, daughter of Thomas and

Wm. Miller & Elizabeth Lecky (sic) 24th Jun 1785, daughter of Thomas, son of Henry.

Now IF we can believe the information found in L.D.S. family search given by

Alan Newton Miller
1225 West Grauwyler Road
Irving, TX 75061-2206

he has placed the pedigree chart for the above Samuel Miller born 1 Nov 1760 in Lancaster Co. PA, died 26 Apr 1846 in Rockbridge Co. VA, married 1 Jan 1787 in Rockbridge to Margaret Lackey. His father Henry Miller born 1726 Londonderry Ireland, died Sep 1797 Rockbridge Co. VA, married @1755 in Londonderry, Ireland to Rebecca Beggs born 1736 Londonderry, Ireland died 1816 in Rockbridge Co. VA.

It would appear then said Samuel & Wm. Miller were brothers. My guess is that said Margaret & Elizabeth were also sisters. I did not check to see if their parentage was placed in the system.

Of course, the big question was your Robert the son of one of the above men. I do not think the compiled books at Fairfax Public Library will be helpful. We need land deeds & wills for the location.

If your problem were mine, which it is not.

I would write to Alan Miller. You might check the Family Tree D.N.A. project to see if test samples have been send in to the project. I do not know anything about the female surname Lackey, Leckey etc....might be the same family or two different families. Might Google the surname or check L.D.S. listing of films.

I did find on 1850 Rockbridge Co. VA census these Miller living next to Michael's Smith family of Rockbridge. You-all can exchange information about this county. He might know of records on line.

I think Wm. also died before 1850 census. Stated that Samuel Miller died 1846. I can get the wills for the county through State of VA library system. I just order some film, so it will have to wait for a few weeks. Just depends how fast they send my my film.

Hope all this works out for you. I do not "do Ireland".

Your Taggart/Tagart I see all over the map (MD, VA, NC). I need additional information about the James Tagart, do you know where he was born and when he entered MO?.

Found on internet portion of a History Book dealing with Rockbridge Co. VA, named the children of Wm. Miller as: Henry, James, Thomas L., Nancy, Agnes, Wm., Nathan, Ichabod & Martha. NO ROBERT MILLER.

Found the statement that his brother Samuel had 13 children: 6 girls & 7 boys, but names given.

The book "Rockbridge Co. VA Notebook" by A. Maxim Coppage III gives an account of Henry Miller coming from Londonderry, Ireland to Lancaster Co. PA then down to Rockbridge Co. VA. You might google "Fork of James Church" he was the builder & founder of the church. I am assuming from this source the information found its way into to the L.D.S. computer bank. Henry had only three sons: John (removed to KY) and said Samuel & Wm. stayed in VA. If Samuel was not the father of your Robert, then we will have to look to another Miller family as been his ancestry.

If you are lucky there is a really Miller researcher who might have all the answers to your questions.

I see some film coming into our center next month and I hope to find out more about your Robert Miller of MO. Really need a record in that location which clearly states where he lived in VA and the names of his parents. That cemetery book dealing with St. Charles Co. MO might have important information,but I can't get to it.


Posted: 9:51 PM - Sep 17, 2010
Gerard McKay
Found in John Vogt's Marriage Book Rockbridge Co. Marriage 1778-1850 your

Robert Miller & Magdalene Simonds 20 Nov 1823, d. John dec'd, minister V.M. Mason, Baptist. It would appear was the same couple listed on later MO census.

According to earlier John Vogt's marriage book & coupled with earlier census for Rockbridge households which had a male right age group for your Robert Miller born 1795, would be Andrew, Catherine, Samuel & Wm.

The only marriages I can find for that location would be for:

Samuel Miller & Margaret Lackey (sic) 29th Dec 1787, daughter of Thomas and

Wm. Miller & Elizabeth Lecky (sic) 24th Jun 1785, daughter of Thomas, son of Henry.

Now IF we can believe the information found in L.D.S. family search given by

Alan Newton Miller
1225 West Grauwyler Road
Irving, TX 75061-2206

he has placed the pedigree chart for the above Samuel Miller born 1 Nov 1760 in Lancaster Co. PA, died 26 Apr 1846 in Rockbridge Co. VA, married 1 Jan 1787 in Rockbridge to Margaret Lackey. His father Henry Miller born 1726 Londonderry Ireland, died Sep 1797 Rockbridge Co. VA, married @1755 in Londonderry, Ireland to Rebecca Beggs born 1736 Londonderry, Ireland died 1816 in Rockbridge Co. VA.

It would appear then said Samuel & Wm. Miller were brothers. My guess is that said Margaret & Elizabeth were also sisters. I did not check to see if their parentage was placed in the system.

Of course, the big question was your Robert the son of one of the above men. I do not think the compiled books at Fairfax Public Library will be helpful. We need land deeds & wills for the location.

If your problem were mine, which it is not.

I would write to Alan Miller. You might check the Family Tree D.N.A. project to see if test samples have been send in to the project. I do not know anything about the female surname Lackey, Leckey etc....might be the same family or two different families. Might Google the surname or check L.D.S. listing of films.

I did find on 1850 Rockbridge Co. VA census these Miller living next to Michael's Smith family of Rockbridge. You-all can exchange information about this county. He might know of records on line.

I think Wm. also died before 1850 census. Stated that Samuel Miller died 1846. I can get the wills for the county through State of VA library system. I just order some film, so it will have to wait for a few weeks. Just depends how fast they send my my film.

Hope all this works out for you. I do not "do Ireland".

Your Taggart/Tagart I see all over the map (MD, VA, NC). I need additional information about the James Tagart, do you know where he was born and when he entered MO?.

I missed your earlier posts, but I'm getting back to work now.

I checked my notes and besides knowing that he married Magdalene Simonds in 1823, I don't have Robert Miller's birth and ancestry nailed down completely.

Based upon several census records, his birth year was sometime between 1795 and 1798. There were several Robert Millers born in Virginia during that time period. One of them was "Robert Hartshorne Miller" born in 1798 and his parents and ancestral line were: Mordecai Miller (b.1764) & Rebecca Hartshorne; Warwick Miller (b.1735) & Elizabeth Price; and Robert Miller & Ruth Haines.

My Robert Miller was identified as "Robert H. Miller" in the 1850 census and also living in the residence was 25 year old (son?) "Warwick Miller" born in Virginia. Anyhow, you've given me several good options for research.

My notes for James Tagart (also Tygart, Tagert, Tigert, Taggart & more) show he arrived in the Louisiana Purchase territory that became Missouri as early as 1815. Census records for his children indicate that James Tagart was born in North Carolina and his wife, Margaret, was born in Kentucky.

He bought privately owned land and public land in St. Charles County and he owned six slaves in the 1830 Census. James Tagart died in 1838 and his probate file included an inventory naming seven slaves. One of these slaves was Harrell (Harrold), who was identified as a mulatto man." James Tagart's will distributed the slaves among his wife and five children. Rezen A. Tagart (son), was named executor of the estate and hired out Harrold for $120 for the year 1840.

Four slaves with the Taggart surname joined the U.S. Colored troops in 1863-1864 and stated at their enlistment that their former slave owner was Robert Miller. Two of these men were Nelson Taggart and Isaac Taggart. Each of their death certificates shows Harrold Taggart to be their father. This seems to confirm that Robert Miller acquired some or all of the slaves of James Tagart sometime after 1840.

So Amelia Taggart (aka Miller) McKay was born in 1852--the child of Robert Miller & the slave Jane Bonds. I believe Amelia was raised until the end of slavery and the Civil War in 1865 by Harrold Taggart and Jane Bonds. Amelia married William McKee (McKay) in December 1865. Harrold Taggart married Jane Taggart in October 1867--unfortunately, Jane's maiden name is not on the marriage record. They probably married at this late date because Missouri law required that former slaves "cohabiting" in marital relationships begun during slavery--"be married again" by an authorized representative of the state or recognized minister of the gospel.

Amelia and her children had relationships with Harrold Taggart and other Taggart family members in St. Charles and St. Louis for the remainder of their lives. Harrold and Jane lived near William and Amelia McKay and after William's death in 1882, Harrold and other Taggart relatives provided affidavits and served as witnesses when Amelia made her Civil War Widow's Pension Declarations in 1889 and 1891.

I don't have any evidence of any blood relationship between James Tagart and Amelia McKay--and I don't know of any Taggart descendants (black or white) for DNA comparison--so I don't plan to pursue that question any further unless some new breakthrough comes along.

1838 James Tagart Estate Inventory with names of slaves listed






Posted: 9:33 AM - Sep 18, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
I believe I have an email from you, thinking that Robert Miller purchased said Jane Bonds from the Tagart family in MO about 1850. Amelia being born in 1852.

Is it not possible that Jane Bonds was one of the female slaves listed on 1850 Slave Schedule in Robert Miller's household? And he brought her into MO from VA ?

Next month I will order some film dealing with Rockbridge Co. VA--Wills & Land Deeds, and I hope they will shed some light on the slaves once owned by the Miller family in that location.

Posted: 4:36 AM - Sep 20, 2010
Gerard McKay
Robert Miller arrived in Missouri by 1827. The 1830 census shows he owned 1 female slave who was under 10 years of age. Amelia McKay's death certificate does show that Jane Bonds was born in Virginia, so it is possible that Robert brought Jane to Missouri. However, the 1840 census does not show Robert Miller owning any slaves--even though the total number of free persons and slaves in the household does not appear to match the Miller family accurately. So it's uncertain whether Robert Miller owned Jane before 1840 or not.

If you look at the 1830 census below, you see three lines below Robert Miller's name, "James Tygart" who owned 6 slaves (3 males, 3 females). The 1840 census for Robert Miller follows; James Tygart died in 1838.


1830 Census


1840 Census

Posted: 12:07 PM - Sep 20, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
I will keep the movements of Robert Miller in mind when I get additional information from Rockbridge Co. VA & St. Charles MO. land deeds The first group of film I can get "free" through State of VA library.

Robert Miller married 20th Nov 1823 in Rockbridge, wife's name matches with marriage bond

Need to check land deeds for Rockbridge c1823 to c1827 to see if he left VA with slaves. Looking for the names of any Miller slaves in this area of VA.

Robert Miller arrived in MO c1827

Robert Miller had in 1830 female slave under 10 so could be Jane Bonds

James Tagart 1838 does not have a Jane Bonds listed among his slaves?

Robert Miller 1840 shows no slaves, either above female dies? or census report not filled in correctly.

Robert Miller 1850 Slave Schedule shows a number of slaves

You think Robert Miller c1850 to c1852 purchased slaves could be a record of that kind of conveyance in land deeds for St. Charles Co. MO.

Robert Miller 1860 Slave Schedule shows a number of slaves.

Believe we are lacking the first names of Robert Miller's slaves.

I hope for your research, your Robert Miller & his slave Jane Bonds' blood lines both came into MO from Rockbridge Co. VA, for I know those records exist and you will be looking in only one location.


Posted: 6:09 PM - Oct 07, 2010
Dee Ann Buck
I missed your earlier posts, but I'm getting back to work now.

I checked my notes and besides knowing that he married Magdalene Simonds in 1823, I don't have Robert Miller's birth and ancestry nailed down completely.

Based upon several census records, his birth year was sometime between 1795 and 1798. There were several Robert Millers born in Virginia during that time period. One of them was "Robert Hartshorne Miller" born in 1798 and his parents and ancestral line were: Mordecai Miller (b.1764) & Rebecca Hartshorne; Warwick Miller (b.1735) & Elizabeth Price; and Robert Miller & Ruth Haines.

My Robert Miller was identified as "Robert H. Miller" in the 1850 census and also living in the residence was 25 year old (son?) "Warwick Miller" born in Virginia. Anyhow, you've given me several good options for research.

My notes for James Tagart (also Tygart, Tagert, Tigert, Taggart & more) show he arrived in the Louisiana Purchase territory that became Missouri as early as 1815. Census records for his children indicate that James Tagart was born in North Carolina and his wife, Margaret, was born in Kentucky.

He bought privately owned land and public land in St. Charles County and he owned six slaves in the 1830 Census. James Tagart died in 1838 and his probate file included an inventory naming seven slaves. One of these slaves was Harrell (Harrold), who was identified as a mulatto man." James Tagart's will distributed the slaves among his wife and five children. Rezen A. Tagart (son), was named executor of the estate and hired out Harrold for $120 for the year 1840.

Four slaves with the Taggart surname joined the U.S. Colored troops in 1863-1864 and stated at their enlistment that their former slave owner was Robert Miller. Two of these men were Nelson Taggart and Isaac Taggart. Each of their death certificates shows Harrold Taggart to be their father. This seems to confirm that Robert Miller acquired some or all of the slaves of James Tagart sometime after 1840.

So Amelia Taggart (aka Miller) McKay was born in 1852--the child of Robert Miller & the slave Jane Bonds. I believe Amelia was raised until the end of slavery and the Civil War in 1865 by Harrold Taggart and Jane Bonds. Amelia married William McKee (McKay) in December 1865. Harrold Taggart married Jane Taggart in October 1867--unfortunately, Jane's maiden name is not on the marriage record. They probably married at this late date because Missouri law required that former slaves "cohabiting" in marital relationships begun during slavery--"be married again" by an authorized representative of the state or recognized minister of the gospel.

Amelia and her children had relationships with Harrold Taggart and other Taggart family members in St. Charles and St. Louis for the remainder of their lives. Harrold and Jane lived near William and Amelia McKay and after William's death in 1882, Harrold and other Taggart relatives provided affidavits and served as witnesses when Amelia made her Civil War Widow's Pension Declarations in 1889 and 1891.

I don't have any evidence of any blood relationship between James Tagart and Amelia McKay--and I don't know of any Taggart descendants (black or white) for DNA comparison--so I don't plan to pursue that question any further unless some new breakthrough comes along.

1838 James Tagart Estate Inventory with names of slaves listed




L.D.S. 0967565 St. Charles Co. MO Land Deed Book M,239, dated 16 Sep 1838, probated 2 Oct 1838, will of James Tagart (he signed the record)

Wife: Margaret to have the home tract he had purchased from Isaac Best, also that tract he had purchased from James Green, also all slaves, household furniture & farming utensils need to keep up the farm. After her death divided among his five children.

Son: Franklin Tagart to have the above property after the death of mother.

Son: Rezin A. Tagart to have the tract whereon he now lives, he purchased from Rezin Abley.

Daughter: Sarah Tagart now Goodrick to have the tract he had purchased from Peter Journey.

Daughter: Ann Tagart now Archer to have slave girl Marie now in her possession, also 80a in Warren Co.....? entered in the land office of St. Louis & also $400.

Daughter: Margaret Tagert to have $1000

All remain property not willed equally divided among all five children.

Appointed son Rezin A. Tagar as executor.

Wit: Warner Briscoe, James Goodrick & Leo Twyman.

I thought it interesting that the above slave Marie, not included on the inventory of James. I have not look if Marie might be listed among Archer slaves.

I wanted to find on this film James McKay purchasing slave Harriet. But that was not to be. Perhaps that record will be found on earlier land deeds.

I did not see on his film Tagart buying or selling slaves to Robert Miller or anyone else. We might need to find the maiden name of Margaret to see if some of the Tagart slaves came from her father or mother family.

This film covers 1838-1840 Book M & N.