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I have had some success in find information on Taverner/Tavner McKay, born ca. 1799 in Virginia, although I cannot place him and would appreciate any information.

I continue to believe he may have been a son of James McKay (1772-1849) son of James McKay and Mary Cheek by a yet undiscovered first marriage. James m. Patsy Johnston in 1804 when he was about 32, so he had time to have an earlier family. Also, the Taverner name runs in the Cheek family. Mrs. Barbara Cheek, who was 102 when a sketch was written in 1858, refers to Taverner as a brother of Nicholas Cheek, who lived in Dearborn Co., Ind.

Taverner married Sarah Higgins on 13 Jan. 1820 in Switzerland Co. He is shown 1830 in the Jefferson County, Ind., census. The folowing are listed in succession in that census: Mary Vaughn (daughter of James McKay and Mary Cheek), George McKay, David McKay (sons of Robert McKay and Lydia Leith), and Tavner, who lived in close proximity to the descendents of James McKay and Mary Chester all the time he was in either Jefferson or Switzerland Counties.

Tavner was taxed in Milton Twp., Jefferson Co., in 1827 and 1831. He purchased a lot in Greensburg on 23 Sept. 1836 from Joseph Monfort. He and wife Sarah sold the lot on 26 Jan. 1839 to Abner Stewart A number of the sons of Robert McKay and Lydia Leith purchased land in Decatur Co. in the 1830s, including John who m. Isabelle Gaines, David, Robert, and William. Taverner's path seems to follow that of Allen who also owned land in Greensburg. I believe Taverner and Allen may have been full brothers.

I have not found Tavener in the 1850 census. But he is listed in 1860 in the Fourth Ward of Sacramento, Calif. His occupation was given as a watchman. His age was given as 60 and he was born in Virginia. There was a student Charles McKay, age 21, living with him. An S.D. Hunter, born in New York, and a female whose name was given only as E. Hunter, lived with him. In 1870, Tavener is listed in Marysville, Yuba Co., Calif. He was age 71, living in the house of Hugh McKay, age 44. Hugh was born in Indiana.

On June 30, 1820, Allen served on a jury in Switzerland County as did a James McKay, which means he was at least 21 and born before 1799. Allen McKay m. 17 Apr. 1822 in Ohio County, Ky., Malinda Davis.

On 31 Aug. 1830 Allen and wife, Malinda, sold land he had purchased in 1829 in Decatur Co. tract to Richard Braden. Allen was living in McLean Co., Ill, in 1832 when he advertised back in Madison, Ind., seeking the whereabouts of a daughter, age 7, he had left with the family of Isaac Clark. He returned to Indiana by 1834 when he married Sarah Netherland in Switzerland Co. In 1845, he advertised, seeking a son Daniel then about age 16 who had had also left with another family.

Allen is also in close proximity to the descendents of James and Mary Chester McKay. On September 26, 1836, he purchased 36.6 acres from Moses McKay (son of James McKay and Patsy Johnston) and his wife Margaret Lancaster McKay. If my theory is correct, Allen was Moses' half brother.

On 16 April 1841. Allen and his wife, then living in Switzerland Co., sold land to William Vaughn, son of Mary McKay Vaughn. On 16 May 1849, Allen and Sarah McKay, living in Switzerland County, sold a lot in Carrollton, Ky. This is the last record I have found.

Allen apparently died by 1850 as Sarah McKay, age 58, headed a houshold in Craig Twp. In that household were Thurston J. Netherland, 23, Nancy, 21, probably Thurston's wife. Ophelia McKay, 15, probably Allen and Sarah's daughter, and a George Wood 14. Sarah is listed within Within two nad a portion census pages and 16 households, Sarah is listed as are the following: Ephraim
and Merritt McKay (sons or Robert McKay and his wife Mary Cain. Robert was the son James McKay and Mary Cheek); Moses McKay's widow Margaret and her children, Theressa McKay, the widow and second wife of Zachariah McKay, another son of James McKay and Mary Cheek.So, if Allen wasn't part of the James McKay (1772-1849) family, he certainly hung around with them a lot.

In 1860, Sarah lived in a household in Switzerland County
headed by Joseph Netherland. This is the last record I find of her.

Shenandoah Co. VA Will Book B,268, dated 3 Jun 1785, estate sale of Ephraim Leeth members of the McKay & Leith families:

1. Robert McKay purchased a desk, steer and other household items.

2. Ephraim Leeth purchased a table

3. James Leith purchased a bed.

Book B, page 111 estate sale of George Leith, with administers Josiah Leith & Ebenezer Leith dated 30 Sep 1784.

Book B, page 112 orphan bond posted by Wm. Lillard, John Anderson & Jeremiah McKay amount required 300 pounds. Said Wm. Lillard appointed guardian to James Leith orphan of said Georg Leith dated 30 Sep 1784.

Book B, page 141, estate of Ebenezer Leith with administers James Leeth, Edwin Young & Walter Cunningham dated 28 Apr 1785.

Book B, page 268, estate sale of Ephraim Leeth dated 27 Jul 1786, purchasers: James McKay, Robert McKay, & Jeremiah McKay, appraisers were: Jeremiah McKay, John Overall & Sennet Young.

I believe I do not have directly Leith/Leeth ancestry, but found in Ancestry DNA program five researchers who have said ancestry are matching some DNA with me.

1. "pamelar16" looking for Susan Leith born 1819 Colubmian Co. OH, died same location 23 Mar 1896, married James Robison (1811-1889)

2. "shswope" I belive we share Snyder ancestry, he descend of Robert Leith (Lyeth) born 1725 Suffolk, England, d. 11 Dec 1785 P.G. Co. MD, married Sarah Lakin.

3. Laurenpyoung79, I know descend of my Gist ancestor, but also linked by marriage to my McKay, descend of George Leath (1710-1768) married to Miriam..........? through daughter Elizabeth Leith (1741-1828)

4. "MS" looking for Ann Leith (1725 Peeble, Scotland, died 3 Jun 1743 same location) married James Ritchie. This person has in listing of names "Africian Slaves"

5. "bigfootgal" looking for James Leath born 1685 Scotland, d. 1740 Shenandoah Co. VA married to Ann French through their son George Leath (1720-1768) married Miriam.......? (1724-1781). This family connected to our Mackay through line of Robert Sr. second son James Sr.

I have had some success in find information on Taverner/Tavner McKay, born ca. 1799 in Virginia, although I cannot place him and would appreciate any information.

I continue to believe he may have been a son of James McKay (1772-1849) son of James McKay and Mary Cheek by a yet undiscovered first marriage. James m. Patsy Johnston in 1804 when he was about 32, so he had time to have an earlier family. Also, the Taverner name runs in the Cheek family. Mrs. Barbara Cheek, who was 102 when a sketch was written in 1858, refers to Taverner as a brother of Nicholas Cheek, who lived in Dearborn Co., Ind.

Taverner married Sarah Higgins on 13 Jan. 1820 in Switzerland Co. He is shown 1830 in the Jefferson County, Ind., census. The folowing are listed in succession in that census: Mary Vaughn (daughter of James McKay and Mary Cheek), George McKay, David McKay (sons of Robert McKay and Lydia Leith), and Tavner, who lived in close proximity to the descendents of James McKay and Mary Chester all the time he was in either Jefferson or Switzerland Counties.

Tavner was taxed in Milton Twp., Jefferson Co., in 1827 and 1831. He purchased a lot in Greensburg on 23 Sept. 1836 from Joseph Monfort. He and wife Sarah sold the lot on 26 Jan. 1839 to Abner Stewart A number of the sons of Robert McKay and Lydia Leith purchased land in Decatur Co. in the 1830s, including John who m. Isabelle Gaines, David, Robert, and William. Taverner's path seems to follow that of Allen who also owned land in Greensburg. I believe Taverner and Allen may have been full brothers.

I have not found Tavener in the 1850 census. But he is listed in 1860 in the Fourth Ward of Sacramento, Calif. His occupation was given as a watchman. His age was given as 60 and he was born in Virginia. There was a student Charles McKay, age 21, living with him. An S.D. Hunter, born in New York, and a female whose name was given only as E. Hunter, lived with him. In 1870, Tavener is listed in Marysville, Yuba Co., Calif. He was age 71, living in the house of Hugh McKay, age 44. Hugh was born in Indiana.

On June 30, 1820, Allen served on a jury in Switzerland County as did a James McKay, which means he was at least 21 and born before 1799. Allen McKay m. 17 Apr. 1822 in Ohio County, Ky., Malinda Davis.

On 31 Aug. 1830 Allen and wife, Malinda, sold land he had purchased in 1829 in Decatur Co. tract to Richard Braden. Allen was living in McLean Co., Ill, in 1832 when he advertised back in Madison, Ind., seeking the whereabouts of a daughter, age 7, he had left with the family of Isaac Clark. He returned to Indiana by 1834 when he married Sarah Netherland in Switzerland Co. In 1845, he advertised, seeking a son Daniel then about age 16 who had had also left with another family.

Allen is also in close proximity to the descendents of James and Mary Chester McKay. On September 26, 1836, he purchased 36.6 acres from Moses McKay (son of James McKay and Patsy Johnston) and his wife Margaret Lancaster McKay. If my theory is correct, Allen was Moses' half brother.

On 16 April 1841. Allen and his wife, then living in Switzerland Co., sold land to William Vaughn, son of Mary McKay Vaughn. On 16 May 1849, Allen and Sarah McKay, living in Switzerland County, sold a lot in Carrollton, Ky. This is the last record I have found.

Allen apparently died by 1850 as Sarah McKay, age 58, headed a houshold in Craig Twp. In that household were Thurston J. Netherland, 23, Nancy, 21, probably Thurston's wife. Ophelia McKay, 15, probably Allen and Sarah's daughter, and a George Wood 14. Sarah is listed within Within two nad a portion census pages and 16 households, Sarah is listed as are the following: Ephraim
and Merritt McKay (sons or Robert McKay and his wife Mary Cain. Robert was the son James McKay and Mary Cheek); Moses McKay's widow Margaret and her children, Theressa McKay, the widow and second wife of Zachariah McKay, another son of James McKay and Mary Cheek.So, if Allen wasn't part of the James McKay (1772-1849) family, he certainly hung around with them a lot.

In 1860, Sarah lived in a household in Switzerland County
headed by Joseph Netherland. This is the last record I find of her.

This is what I am talking about people can't find a place for certain McKay in IN so they make up marriages for one of our known McKay.

The man in question was married just once to Patsy Johnson.

Most likely Taverner and Allen McKay were members of another group of McKays who came into that part of IN. So they lived near the descends of James McKay Sr. SO WHAT !!!

If you really want to solve the problem start getting male McKay to do they Y marker test. We have established the numbering pattern for Robert Mackay Sr. A male must have those numbers to share our common male ancestor. By "our" I mean the researchers who have stated how they are related to Robert Mackay Sr. son and lines: Robert (3), James (1), Zachariah and Moses (4or 5).

My guess is Floyd McKay's descend when test will show a different numbering pattern. Get male descends of the others to do to the test, that would settle the matter for sure.

Believe Asia/Asa McKay married in Frederick Co. MD to Amelia Lanham and Floyd McKay who married Millie Grimes were brothers and Allen McKay born 1801 in VA and Tavener McKay born 1799 in VA belong to the same McKay of Frederick Co. MD removed down to Shenandoah Co. VA after descend of James Mackay Sr. (son of Robert Sr.) had removed to Switzerland Co. IN.

People are mixing together two different groups of Mackay/McKay, again a simple Y marker test would settle the matter. In any case Taverner and Allen being born in VA after our group of Mackay left for Switzerland Co. IN should be a problem for researcher who assist they belong to our group.

Edith McKay born 1761 died 1850 IN married Jonathan McCarty born 1756 PA died 1827 IN married 13 Dec 1795 in Nelson Co. KY. Our James McKay Sr. never lived in this location. A researcher has incorrect information on Find A Grave linking her to our James Mackay Sr. (son of Robert Sr.)

1800 census for that location has two males old enough to be the father of said Edith-- Richard or Wm. McKay. I do not believe members of the family of Robert Mackay Sr. of MA to NJ to PA to VA.