robertmackayclan

I have been told the parents of Anne Brown(e), wife of Robert Mckay, Sr., were James Brown and Honour Clayton. Ann is not listed on the Brown Family link on this website. Who were her parents? Thanks.

The link you mentioned is that of a different Brown family that intermarried with my Steer family in Loudoun County.

As to Ann Brown's parents we don't know at this time, nor do we know who Robert's parents were.

There is a record in the LDS database that has two people listed as Ann Brown's parents and also two people listed as Robert Mackay's parents. I don't remember who it said Ann's parents were. It said Robert's were Capt. Hugh Mackay & Jane Dunbar.

Both sets of people the LDS file listed as parents of Ann & Robert respectively are incorrect. If the people you are talking about are the ones from the LDS file I mentioned then I would be skeptical of it's accuracy. A lot of cut and paste genealogy went into the creation of that LDS record. We've touched on that awhile back on this forum.

Since Brown is a fairly common surname like Smith I imagine finding Ann's parents will be like looking for a needle in a haystack.

A question to consider though is: Was Ann Brown's family Quaker?

If so then it's possible some records could exist somewhere in an early meeting.

The books by Dobson dealing with early Scottish Quakers list Brown family members living in East Lothian, Scotland in the same location as my John Hampton. And he recorded that a John Brown did remove to East Jersey. Now were was a merchant by the name of John Brown in Freehold, when he died most of the people in town owed him monies: two people were John Mackay & James Leith. I think this is the family of Brown we need to find out more about.

Some might have arrived in the ship "Exchange" with the Hampton party. There were about five other ships which arrived to early NJ I want to find out more about. Most were Scottish Quakers, others Scottish Presbyterian like George Brown arrived in the boat "Henry & Frances". Our Ann Brown did not belong to this group.

Third group of Brown, living in New Jersey, were English Quakers. I descendant from a Abraham Brown, his daughter married by John Hampton. Since the records exist for this meeting house of Quakers, and our Ann Brown not among them, rather doubt she belongs to them.

The parents given for our Ann Brown as James & Honour (Clayton) Brown was circulated by Bill Jobe in his Jobe/Job Journal. I wrote him at the time, he ran the article. He informed me the information was just for "research purposes". What ever that meant. Now I believe one of his reader placed the information in the L.D.S. file. And there it will stay.

In any case, it is very unlikely Ann Brown livied in any other location than East Jersey, NJ. James Brown left England directly for NY and on to present day Cecil Co. MD. No stop overs in Freehold, NJ for this group of Browns.

I have been told the parents of Anne Brown(e), wife of Robert Mckay, Sr., were James Brown and Honour Clayton. Ann is not listed on the Brown Family link on this website. Who were her parents? Thanks.

She has compiled a book called "The Ancestry of Dr. Franklin B. McClung", in it she has named the Job/Jobe Journal as a source.

She also listed James Brown & Honour Clayton as the parents of Ann Brown, wife of Robert. She named Bill Jobe as her source.

Francis Gill, also mentioned as a source, who supplied her with false information. I believe he was the one who placed the parentage of Ann Brown in L.D.S. computer bank.

Was he the one who placed the false information about Robert Mackay's parentage in the bank as well ?

The books by Dobson dealing with early Scottish Quakers list Brown family members living in East Lothian, Scotland in the same location as my John Hampton. And he recorded that a John Brown did remove to East Jersey. Now were was a merchant by the name of John Brown in Freehold, when he died most of the people in town owed him monies: two people were John Mackay & James Leith. I think this is the family of Brown we need to find out more about.

Some might have arrived in the ship "Exchange" with the Hampton party. There were about five other ships which arrived to early NJ I want to find out more about. Most were Scottish Quakers, others Scottish Presbyterian like George Brown arrived in the boat "Henry & Frances". Our Ann Brown did not belong to this group.

Third group of Brown, living in New Jersey, were English Quakers. I descendant from a Abraham Brown, his daughter married by John Hampton. Since the records exist for this meeting house of Quakers, and our Ann Brown not among them, rather doubt she belongs to them.

The parents given for our Ann Brown as James & Honour (Clayton) Brown was circulated by Bill Jobe in his Jobe/Job Journal. I wrote him at the time, he ran the article. He informed me the information was just for "research purposes". What ever that meant. Now I believe one of his reader placed the information in the L.D.S. file. And there it will stay.

In any case, it is very unlikely Ann Brown livied in any other location than East Jersey, NJ. James Brown left England directly for NY and on to present day Cecil Co. MD. No stop overs in Freehold, NJ for this group of Browns.

I have some notes that indicate that Ann Brown's parents might be a William Browm (WFT est. 1632-1661 Death 1686-1746 of Nottingham MM, PA and Amm (DOB 1641-1664, DOD 1686-1705 Marriage around 1673-1705. Does this ring a bell?

We know Robert Mackay Sr. was living in Monmouth Co. NJ as early as 1705, the location most likely all his children were born. The Brown Family mentioned in these posting did not live in said location.

The books by Dobson dealing with early Scottish Quakers list Brown family members living in East Lothian, Scotland in the same location as my John Hampton. And he recorded that a John Brown did remove to East Jersey. Now were was a merchant by the name of John Brown in Freehold, when he died most of the people in town owed him monies: two people were John Mackay & James Leith. I think this is the family of Brown we need to find out more about.

Some might have arrived in the ship "Exchange" with the Hampton party. There were about five other ships which arrived to early NJ I want to find out more about. Most were Scottish Quakers, others Scottish Presbyterian like George Brown arrived in the boat "Henry & Frances". Our Ann Brown did not belong to this group.

Third group of Brown, living in New Jersey, were English Quakers. I descendant from a Abraham Brown, his daughter married by John Hampton. Since the records exist for this meeting house of Quakers, and our Ann Brown not among them, rather doubt she belongs to them.

The parents given for our Ann Brown as James & Honour (Clayton) Brown was circulated by Bill Jobe in his Jobe/Job Journal. I wrote him at the time, he ran the article. He informed me the information was just for "research purposes". What ever that meant. Now I believe one of his reader placed the information in the L.D.S. file. And there it will stay.

In any case, it is very unlikely Ann Brown livied in any other location than East Jersey, NJ. James Brown left England directly for NY and on to present day Cecil Co. MD. No stop overs in Freehold, NJ for this group of Browns.

Found on Ancestry DNA Site sample given by "gmansker1" line of Ann Brown born 1710 died 1780 Somerset Co. NJ m. 1737 in Somerset Co. NJ to Lucas Covert.

Their son Daniel Covert born 1739 Monmouth Co. NJ died 1803 Clark Co. IL married 1775 Freehold, NJ to Catherine Van Pelt.

This is not a clean sample of Brown DNA, for this researcher has Haines & Dubois. So our share DNA could be from one of those families.

The books by Dobson dealing with early Scottish Quakers list Brown family members living in East Lothian, Scotland in the same location as my John Hampton. And he recorded that a John Brown did remove to East Jersey. Now were was a merchant by the name of John Brown in Freehold, when he died most of the people in town owed him monies: two people were John Mackay & James Leith. I think this is the family of Brown we need to find out more about.

Some might have arrived in the ship "Exchange" with the Hampton party. There were about five other ships which arrived to early NJ I want to find out more about. Most were Scottish Quakers, others Scottish Presbyterian like George Brown arrived in the boat "Henry & Frances". Our Ann Brown did not belong to this group.

Third group of Brown, living in New Jersey, were English Quakers. I descendant from a Abraham Brown, his daughter married by John Hampton. Since the records exist for this meeting house of Quakers, and our Ann Brown not among them, rather doubt she belongs to them.

The parents given for our Ann Brown as James & Honour (Clayton) Brown was circulated by Bill Jobe in his Jobe/Job Journal. I wrote him at the time, he ran the article. He informed me the information was just for "research purposes". What ever that meant. Now I believe one of his reader placed the information in the L.D.S. file. And there it will stay.

In any case, it is very unlikely Ann Brown livied in any other location than East Jersey, NJ. James Brown left England directly for NY and on to present day Cecil Co. MD. No stop overs in Freehold, NJ for this group of Browns.

Found on Ancestry DNA sample given by "Jerry112" his line

1. James Brown born 1636 MA died 1684 NJ married to Penelop Mary Stout. Stout family recorded in Stillwell books.

2. Andrew Brown born 1668 Freehold, Monmouth Co. NJ died 1702 same location. Married Anna Seabrook daughter of Thomas & Marie (Stillwell) Brown

3. Avis Brown born 1709 Topenemus, Monmouth Co. NJ died 1760 Goshen, Orange Co. NJ married 1726 in Monmouth Co. NJ to John Baird.

But this is not a clean Brown DNA sample for the researcher is a distant Cooksey & Semmes cousin.

I have been told the parents of Anne Brown(e), wife of Robert Mckay, Sr., were James Brown and Honour Clayton. Ann is not listed on the Brown Family link on this website. Who were her parents? Thanks.

have the parentage of Ann Brown wife of Robert Mackay as James & Honour (Clayton) Brown. A few give Wm. Brown (brother of James) as her father.

All is false. It is bad enough we have this information on net, but now some of our Mackay/Mckay cousins have placed this information as part of their pedigree chart which is linked to their DNA sample.

So if you are a serious Brown Family Researcher combing through DNA samples looking for descends from James Brown & Honour Clayton, be informed the information found on these Mckay/Brown entries are false.

We are not descend of said couple James Brown & Honour Clayton. If you are showing DNA match then the link is somewhere else.

Found on Ancestry DNA sample given by "Jerry112" his line

1. James Brown born 1636 MA died 1684 NJ married to Penelop Mary Stout. Stout family recorded in Stillwell books.

2. Andrew Brown born 1668 Freehold, Monmouth Co. NJ died 1702 same location. Married Anna Seabrook daughter of Thomas & Marie (Stillwell) Brown

3. Avis Brown born 1709 Topenemus, Monmouth Co. NJ died 1760 Goshen, Orange Co. NJ married 1726 in Monmouth Co. NJ to John Baird.

But this is not a clean Brown DNA sample for the researcher is a distant Cooksey & Semmes cousin.

At the moment I am having an issue with my linkage to Ancestry DNA Project. My computer system must be updated.

I am showing two pages of matches with researchers who are descend of Richard & Penelope Stout of early NJ. Reseacher "Jerry112" is a descend of said couple through Andrew Brown of early Freehold, Monmouth Co. NJ. But is also Cooksey distant cousin.

Y marker test have been done for this Stout family R-M269.

I have found two researchers who are also descend of Richard & Penelope Stout and I do not see others ways we are related.

What would be nice if others who know they are descends of Robert Mackay & Anne Brown. If they are also showing these two pages of matches.

I have four Stout matches on Family Tree DNA, but I have not figure out how I match with them.

We could finally figure out the ancestry of Ann Brown wife of Robert Mackay.